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The 3rd LRG Tournament - Region 1, Round 1, Game 2


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Poll: Which is the overall better figure? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is the overall better figure?

  1. BBSD - Big Horn Sheep (8 votes [25.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.81%

  2. Army Ants - Howler (23 votes [74.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.19%

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 06:08 AM

The question for this tournament is, "Which is the overall better figure?"

Note: This tournament features many different types of figures, please consider the entirety of a figure (sculpt, detailing, materials, originality, etc.) when voting. Additionally we ask for understanding with the lack of consistent pictures. Do not dismiss a figure because of a poor picture. Please feel free to post a better picture of the figure you selected.

#2 - BBSD - Big Horn Sheep
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#15 - Army Ants - Howler
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Winners:
Region 1, Round 1, Game 1 - Winner: Mega Man – Sigma
Region 2, Round 1, Game 1 - Winner: Dynofighters - Archibathor
Region 3, Round 1, Game 1 - Winner: UM – Tyrannoclaw
Region 4, Round 1, Game 1 - Winner: MIMP - T-Rex
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:00 AM

Army Ants Howler for me please! I can easily see owning a army of this awesomely posed and highly detailed figure over owning even one ofteh Big Horn sheep.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:16 AM

Are Army Ants hollow? (This affects my vote.)
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:16 AM

i can't see the army ant picture :D
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:23 AM

Nope, Army Ants aren't hollow.

I went with Howler myself. I'm a fan of Army Ants, and I think they're loads of fun. This figure has a cool removable weapon, some good color variation, and a bad attitude. He's probably the coolest figure in the tournament so far.

Big Horn Sheep is cool in that he's an SD Battle Beast, but he looks like an eraser. It's good that he has a rub sign, but I was never a big fan of the body proportions of the SD BB. So, Howler for the win!
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 08:38 AM

The sheep was screwed (how many times have we all said that?!). I hate most super deformed figures. While I can appreciate the good work that was done to make this SDBB, I just don't like the look of it. It's mean and cute – which just doesn't work for me. The only detail is on the head and shoulders, but who cares? I also think this figure has zero playability. Unless you have his super deformed friends, he doesn't gel into any other toy line.

Howler easily gets my vote. It's an interesting concept and figure. The design is very nice. It feels like special attention was paid to the details – the shirt rolled up, the boots, the hat. I would imagine these could be painted to look very, very cool. While these didn't appeal to me as a kid or collector, it is easy to see why some people are so fond of them.

Howler gets my vote. I could also see this figure going pretty far in the tournament, unless he faces a powerhouse opponent early.

Changing gears, Is anyone else having problems with the Army Ant picture?
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:26 AM

I had to vote for Howler. It's easily one of my top 5 Army Ants in a fantastic, underappreciated line of LRGs. The paint applications are a little sparse compared to paint apps of other similar sized painted LRGs, but that's part of the idea. These were supposed to be more themed plastic army men. I love the weapon, the pose, and as someone already said, all the details on the figure. I am really hoping this figure makes in far in the competition.

And I am not having any problems seeing either picture

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:34 AM

I had no problems seeing either picture.

Big Horn Sheep is okay, but Howler has a bazooka. That alone gave Howler my vote.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 10:06 AM

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So i voted for the Army Ant guy. I love ants and i think these figures are very cool, i have seen them a few times and have considered going after them a few times in the past. The idea of ants as soldiers fighting wars is just too cool. When i was a kid i used to draw little comic strips of ants fighting, Red Ants Vrs Black Ants... however i am sure the PC brigade would jump all over my head for that idea nowadays i suppose. This specific sculpt just oozes coolness. The detail on his arms holding the bazooka, the grimacing face with his teeth showing, his cool army hat. The only thing missing is a cigar poking out from his clenched teeth.

The SD BB, hmm i dunno what to make of these guys. I sure don't like them as much as the normal beasts. They kind of remind me of those rubber pencil tops you used to get... yeah i am not sure i like them, however i do like the sheeps face, it looks fairly detailed and his shoulder pads look good.

p.s. Who here collects Army Ants? I would like to see some more of these figures in collection photos perhaps
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 10:42 AM

I'm not sure what to say. It would have been an easy victory for the SD BB if the Army Ant was hollow, because I hate hollow LRGs (Ben 10 Sumo Slammers, to the extent that they are hollow, are my only exception). I don't really care that much about either of these.

For some reason, Army Ants in general look "cheap" to me, even though this is the first close-up pic I've seen, and the sculpt looks well-detailed.

I like SD's, but don't have an invested interest in Battle Beasts. Big Horn Sheep seems like a cool idea ('burly sheep-human hybrid with big horns' is hard to get wrong), but the SD execution retains only a reasonable amount of detail on the head. The rest of the sculpt looks like a lumpy mess. Still, it looks like a solid, symmetrical, hard-to-knock-over type of toy, and that's something I appreciate in my LRGs.

My non-committed vote goes to the SD BB BHS.

Edited by mimoman, 13 January 2009 - 10:44 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 11:05 AM

I hate most super deformed figures.


It's like you want me to hate you. :lol: You're going to make this a regular thing, at this rate.

I love SDs. I began properly collecting Godzilla toys not through Bandai six-inch vinyls or High Grades or anything else, but with the SD line I linked to in the suggestion thread for this tourney. I just got an adorable glow-in-the-dark SD Guilala in the mail too, so it's not a series of figures I've ever stopped buying.

That said, there is a right way and a wrong way to design SD figures. The right way isn't just about enlarging the head, shrinking the body, and calling it a day. With most SDs, you don't have poseability either, so the sculpt needs to demonstrate enough detail to make up for it, and the sculpt has to capture the essence of the character, physically and emotionally. Most Godzilla and kaiju SDs I've seen do this. The couple of kinkeshi SDs I have do so as well. The Super Robot Wars series posted recently do this too. Most gunkeshi fail to do this, but the Beastformer SD line fails this miserably and totally.

Part of the blame goes to the static and uncharacteristic poses of the BBs themselves. They all stand in the exact same pose, with the same lines around which the body is based, and only swivel at the shoulder. As much as I love some of them, it's little wonder that I had no trouble selling them off and vowing not to collect again. So to take that body type and superdeform it, the result doesn't surprise me.

The other problem is the type of SD body Takara used for these. Lumping the legs and torso into a blob of plastic is one of the cheapest and worst ways to make an SD body, especially when you're dealing with a humanoid form (but it makes sense for less conventional body types). The age is probably to blame as well, since more dynamic SDs are a recent development. Still, these failures are enough to give the Army Ant, a line I don't particularly like or dislike, an easy advantage.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 11:10 AM

An ant with a bazooka. Come on. Giant plastic bazooka beats Fire sticker any day. :lol:
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 01:37 PM

i generally like SD figures a lot, but the BB doesnt seem like one of the better ones. army ants are great as long as they are complete w/ accessories, and howler is a great figure.
i'm went with the flow on this one,, howler
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 02:12 PM

I went with Howler on this one, although i generally dislike the Army Ants due to sculpts that are largely dependent on removable and therefore easily lost accessories. I have a ton of them, but most look like crap because they're nearly impossible to find complete.

But between these two figures, he's definitely the best. I do like some of the SD Battle Beasts (like the Spider), but this doesn't look like one of the better ones.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 02:24 PM

this was hard for me. i love sd figs and battle beasts. i think the sdbb are really cool, if not insanely priced. but i also had a ton of army ants growing up. mostly blue army. neither one of these figures is my favorite from their respective lines. in the end i went with howler on the basis that i've actually owned army ants and have yet to win the lottery to justify sdbb prices. even though howler is one of the bottom tier figures from army ants.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 02:52 PM

An ant with a bazooka. Come on. Giant plastic bazooka beats Fire sticker any day. ;)

That's where the bazooka hit him on the chest. :(
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:19 PM

An ant with a bazooka. Come on. Giant plastic bazooka beats Fire sticker any day. ;)

That's where the bazooka hit him on the chest. :(


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Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:28 PM

Howler, his butt is removable, best action feature evah'

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:45 PM

not a fan of the army ants at all. BBSD - Big Horn Sheep all the way. :)
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:29 PM

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 05:34 AM

With a score of 23 to 8, the winner:
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