156 replies to this topic

[DarrylWestley]

After a couple of messages about the continuation of the
website and the reason I took it down... This is a copy
of the message that I posted in the Junkyard thread that
may have not been seen by some collectors.

"
I think Howard's point pretty much sums it up:

"Its all a bit obvious really. its just a shame collecting
has come to all this I reckon. I know not everyone is perfect
and at times collectors tread on others feet and there are
obstructions to people getting what they want but thats just
the real world. Sure people lose auctions, or back out of
deals but there are ways and means of at least being a decent
person and not causing problems through their own hoarding
or self opinion. Theres too much of this lately unfortunately"

I have not sought after many figures within this past year
and a half. But unfortunately on a number of occasions I have
been forced to deal with one collector because they are set
on outbidding me even when they own the figures already.
The final straw came when they decided to pouch a trade I had
with another collector. Obviously 'shit happens' but it becomes
increasingly frustrating when the person messages me wondering
why I took their photographs down from the website and then the
very next day screws me over again. We can't have our cake and
eat it can we?!

At the time of removing the website I really felt that it
was the cause of the 'greed' and 'deceit' I had witnessed.
It saddens me but I completely understand the comment about
'throwing in the towel'. I realize that the website had
become bigger than one man (myself) and if anything belongs
to all of us. I would consider someone taking over the
updating of the website but have yet to have anyone come
forward with this request...

Whoever does it perhaps they should be better adaptive to not
taking things personally and able to remain impartial for the future
of MIMP data collection.
"

[dielaughing]

Ah man, I hope someone will take it off your hands and keep it going. I ran a site back when I was 16 for a couple of years (back when it was all ftp to update etc) and it was fun. How much is the domain name and hosting for it out of interest?

[fkro6784]

Having just come back into collecting after a long time out of it, I never got to check out your site. Sounds really cool and helpful though. I'd love to see it. It would be a shame if we let the few obnoxious collectors spoil the fun for the rest of us!

[1313]

I really liked the site & always used it. I understand the reasons for closing it though.

Either way, Monster Collecting lives on with me, albeit in a very low tech way!
Ever since i discovered Darryl's site i've always worked from these print offs to monitor my collection. It's been a Godsend in making sure i know where i am with my matchbox figures in particular.

So yeah, cheers for the work you put in, Darryl.

Attached Files

•  021.jpg   1.65MB   50 downloads

[PlasticSoul]

From reading old posts here it seems as though one single person has rubbed almost all the mimp collectors the wrong way. Which sucks but you shouldn't let it change anything for you. If someone like mimps more then people so be it. If he'd rather screw you out of a little rubber toy then have honor or make a friend then cool. It doesn't represent the majority here. Most people i have dealt with just want the toys they had as a child. That's it. No real financial gain. No "look what i have and you don't". It's usually been "look what i have now let me help you find it too". Sure a couple people here have attempted to gouge me thinking i didn't know better(100 bucks for a pink wolf comes to mind)but that is such a minority.

You need to realize that for every ONE person who is an ass about collecting there are dozens and dozens who appreciated what you did for what it was.

I remember showing my nephews your site and having them be in awe while i told them to each pick any monster they wanted and we'd track it down for them as a reward for A's on their report cards.

In the end it's just little rubber toys. It didn't make that one guy a jerk, he was already that person. But you need to make sure it doesn't change you and make you bitter. It's just toys. Have fun with them or just walk away.

Edited by PlasticSoul, 26 March 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[TheWatcher]

I don't blame you at all. I've probably got a bad rep for calling it out constantly, but there are some seriously selfish MIMP collectors. I mainly collect GPK Cheap Toys and MIMP is my secondary collection. Cheap Toy collecting can be very cut throat, but man there are just some MIMP collectors that are seriously obsessed. I wish you luck in all you do and Thanx for the site while it lasted.

Edited by TheWatcher, 26 March 2012 - 09:15 AM.

[dielaughing]

Good words mr soul! I agree, if one guy dicks me around, I harbour a grudge, but I won't let it stop me collecting or whatever. Its just what happens but as you've said theres a lot of decent collectors too. Just a shame that one guy seems happy to be alienated by his greed than a decent collector like most of the others..

[Strontium Dog]

And I still haven't worked out which collector it is that has been responsible for pissing Darryl off so much!

[Daxel101uk]

And I still haven't worked out which collector it is that has been responsible for pissing Darryl off so much!

Yeah let them be known so we can rip into em

[dielaughing]

Hahaha muscle aches:-D thats a good one:-) Being a new collection its just something you've got to watch for or expect, its a free country and all that and expect some guys to be really cutthroat over their figures they want. And you will see a lot of bullshit like oh I won't bid on that, and then they do etc. I suppose the problem with ebay is some people have more than one account and just when someone works out a few ebay id's a new account might be made.

At the end of the day I don't bid on an auction if I know the winning bidder is a trading friend, at times I've put in bids for other collectors who for some reason can't bid, that has outbid people I know, but it rarely happens, private bids thats a bit impossible though:-D

[ironmask]

Normally, guy on here, as I have seen (at least with M.U.S.C.L.E.), will let each other know what's up with auctions, to avoid all of that. There was a point in time, where guys would split lots, if they wanted the same lot, but for different figures. I think a big part of what keeps me coming back here, is that the majority of the board members believe in that kind of civility.

[AfflictedMike]

I don't see why you would be taking that shit personally. Every single time a monster gets sold, many people bid, one guy wins, and a bunch get pissed. Its called Ebay.

These figures will only rise in popularity as our generation ages, don't know why you would hop ship now.

[dielaughing]

Mike, Darryl knows that with ebay lol but its the same guy screwing him over several times culminating in a trade that he was in that was done and dusted that said collector came in and caused it to go his way by putting down a load of money.
From past experience here, I've been in trades and the guys always say that figure is put aside for you until the trade is all sorted etc. I'm pretty sure this is the same collector who won the neon green behemoth on ebay last week that sold for £183...

At times it can get damn annoying - eg that guy who wins all the bad eggs, skeleton dinosaurs and horrors n heroes figures one ebay annoys me no end. But it doesnt stop me collecting anyway:) So I reckon Darryl will come back at some point.

I definitely agree with you though, keep in the game, don't let the scum get under your skin so much. Prices are going through the roof again and theres always going to be another person coming along with a bottomless pocket who'll trample over anyone to get figures they need. Just man through it and I'm sure sooner or later those collectors who do the underhand deals and so on will find people won't trade with them maybe. Who knows.

[Strontium Dog]

Just man through it and I'm sure sooner or later those collectors who do the underhand deals and so on will find people won't trade with them maybe. Who knows.

If only that was the case, but it seems most are more than willing to deal with people who have screwed other collectors over.

[jkaris]

I have not sought after many figures within this past year
and a half. But unfortunately on a number of occasions I have
been forced to deal with one collector because they are set
on outbidding me even when they own the figures already.

Here's the thing. Why not just be a little more patient and wait to pick up the figure later from another source?

Just like the douchebag who pulls the same crap with BEB (is it the same person?). I don't think many people deal with him to get their BEBs.

[dielaughing]

Jkaris - its not the same guy if my hunch is right. But I can see why you asked.

Strontium - you're right, I know a few people who deal with said BEB guy and say hes a good trader, and so on. I don't deal with him (did poke to see if he would for things I know he collects but he'd give bullshit answers like no they aren't high on my priorities list), nor the guy who I think this whole matter is about. Not for a long time anyway after I had some problems of figures that were put aside getting traded off constantly and then reappearing as if by magic later but being shown to other collectors as 'available'.

Would be nice to see some peoples opinions other than you, 1313, and the people who've posted. To their views on if they've been screwed over by anyone, or such or felt like they've ever got in the way of a potential trade or such and if so how they've responded to it. I know that those who have annoyed others in the past have kept rather quiet on this whole topic

[Strontium Dog]

I don't know why people can't just act in an honourable manner. It's easy to screw someone over, but it wouldn't be worth it in terms of the weight it would put on my conscience. And over something as trivial as a plastic toy. It's a bit sad.

[PimpNugget]

Karma

[dielaughing]

Maybe some people just really dont give a toss and have no hard feelings if they annoyed a ton of people just for a couple of bits of rubber. If it is the case, I feel sorry for their close friends as it won't just be figures they would screw others for I guess

[steelfrogSteve]

I'm curious about who these unscrupulous traders / collectors are. As a newbie collector I go into most trades / purchases on good faith and am still getting my head around rarities and pricing. Monster Collecting was a great resource, and it's a shame that it's down.

[fkro6784]

Couldn't the site at least be put back up even if nobody wanted to update it for now? It sounds as though a lot of people found it helpful, and honestly, if the bad guys don't get their info there they're going to get it somewhere else. And whether it's down or up, it's not going to stop them from being bad guys.

[PimpNugget]

I'm curious about who these unscrupulous traders / collectors are. As a newbie collector I go into most trades / purchases on good faith and am still getting my head around rarities and pricing. Monster Collecting was a great resource, and it's a shame that it's down.

Don't trade with me,
I'm a jerk.

[imperfecz]

Don't trade with me,
I'm a jerk.

Jerk here too....

[Aikola]

I assume the problem is Brojo.

Bad + MIMP = Brojo (based on my experience)

But don't take the site down. That's dumb. You may not want to continue running the site, or updating the site, but I'm sure more than just the people that posted here found it useful. Now you're being a shitty MIMP person to those people by taking down the site. Don't let the figures get in the way of enjoying MIMP. I love MUSCLE, but I'm effing sick of the actual figures.

I have way more fun with the UofM website and all the things associated with that. The figures are just stuff, but you can make your website into whatever you want. So far, it sounds like your website does a lot of good. Taking it down seems like it does a lot of bad.

I think your wrong, yeah he can be annoying at times but I dont think screwing people over is his style. In fact when I traded with him he insisted he sent first.