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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:42 PM

Well, playsets and vehicles are kind of space takers today, you can only use them when you play with them. When you think about a vintage line like Heman, the playsets, such as the castles, could easily double as a figure case. I always shuved my MOTU figs into Snake Mountain or Greyskull when I wasn't playing with them. Could you do that with the new Falcon? And really what parent is gonna go to walmart to spend $200 bucks on their kids for the holidays, and say I'll get him the falcon! When they know their kids would rather have like 20 action figures! :acute:

The prices of those playsets is just a steaming pile of poopoo. $200 bucks is a total butt buster of a price.

I've also heard that there's a pink R2 unit droid named R2-KT that makes you cry if the story makes you duller than a knife throwing ripoff fighter.

Other than the storyline, R2-KT would be a cool choice for droid lovers who love to catch the entire rainbow of R2-D2 and his look-alikes. Those R2 droids are a rather unique group if I do say so myself. The colors makes each and every one of them a very unique droid person, because after all, droids are people too.

Those three Rebel Troops, on the other hand, don't seem to have any different colors at all, because they look all the same, they wear the same clothes and there's nothing distinguishable between them. If there's going to be an Alien Rebel Troop, make sure he's an alien, not a duplicate of the same guy.
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:09 PM

Has anyone else been able to witness the beautifully horrific price Hike on the basic Star Wars figs yet. :) Target and Kmart both have them at 8 bucks now, like it was believed. Walmart has them under 7 though.

What's so bad is half of the new figs released are just repacks, so your paying 2 to 3 bucks more for old figures in shiny new packaging. I'm almost positive that this will hit the collector community hard, and sales will plummet. Usually when a new wave hits shelves at my local wally mart they are raped and pillaged within a few days, but they have been festering the shelves for a week or so with barely a touch....are there even any pieces worth scalping?

What's funny is the K-mart I go to has had some older sagas figs on clearance for a good while now, and they were down to like 4 bucks, but they had to raise the clearance price 3 dollars so it wouldn't look like a deal and match up with the new price. :lol: So your spending 7 bucks for old clearance figs that were 5.75 when new, and on clearance for 4 bucks just a few weeks ago. :p What kind of drugs is Hasbro smoking?
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 10:02 PM

Every store in my area has been absolutely flooded with Star Wars stuff since the Clone Wars toys came out. Every peg is full, and then stuff is usually just heaped on whatever empty shelf space there might be. Nothing looks like it's moving, so you're probably right about the collector community reaching critical mass.

They seem to have done the same thing with the Indiana Jones toys. I was excited at first for the 3 3/4 inch line, until i saw that none of the Indy figures even remotely resemble Harrison Ford. Sort of inexcusable, considering they've had 13 years to hone his likeness in the Star Wars line. Even the "Adventure Heroes" line is extremely lackluster compared to the Galactic/Robot Heroes and Superhero Squad. I'm a complete sucker for that style of figures, and even i haven't bought any yet.

On top of the huge glut of bland toys, add in the fact that so many people hated Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls, and the Clone Wars movie was a critical and (for Star Wars) commercial bomb, and all that stuff's gonna be sitting around for a looong time. Hopefully Hasbro gets the point.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 01:01 PM

There is a fine line between giving the fans what they want and making something the average person won't be interested in. Hasbro doesn't have that problem here, nobody will want this:
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When fans were clamoring for the Lars homestead, it was for crispy Owen and Beru not repaints of unpopular figures. And do they think the building is enough to move this set?

This has to be the biggest turd Hasbro has left it quite some time. Jesus, even the paint opps look terrible.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 01:21 PM

Wow, that is just amazingly terrible. The "Cinema Scene" three packs have always been pretty bad, but this one hits a whole new level. Owen's wide eyes and flailing arms make him look like he's trying to outrun that sand crawler while Beru and a bored Stormtrooper exchange insurance information.

It's starting to look more and more feasible that the Star Wars franchise could choke to death on itself at any moment.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:03 PM

I think playset collectors will buy the set. I can see someone hooking up a moisture vaporator to it and making a "Luke looks longingly at the twin suns" diorama.

Nobody will like the figures with it, though. Beru isn't a bad figure, just a boring character. But that Owen was never good, even when it was first released 10 years ago. And no one needs another Stormtrooper at this point.

I think Hasbro would have knocked it out of the park if they put in a couple of charred skeletons and a Tatooine Luke figure. But this is definitely a pegwarmer.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 04:22 PM

That's almost depressing to look at. They should have included a Lighter and a pack of Black Cats. :blink:
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Posted 02 September 2008 - 02:43 PM

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Oh crap! WIOSLEA and DICE IBEGON! I've wanted these two in figure form since I was a kid!
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 11:11 PM

Is there seriously a character called "Brianiac", or is that a typo?

Also, R5-A2 is my favorite Star Wars character, and i'm happy to see he's finally getting the figure he deserves. It's criminal that they removed the sub-plot in Return of the Jedi where R5-A2 singlehandedly liberates that cargo ship full of enslaved Wookiees and settles a trade dispute on Tantive IV, all while learning to love again. Hopefully it'll be back in for the 3D version.
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:17 AM

Is there seriously a character called "Brianiac", or is that a typo?

Also, R5-A2 is my favorite Star Wars character, and i'm happy to see he's finally getting the figure he deserves. It's criminal that they removed the sub-plot in Return of the Jedi where R5-A2 singlehandedly liberates that cargo ship full of enslaved Wookiees and settles a trade dispute on Tantive IV, all while learning to love again. Hopefully it'll be back in for the 3D version.


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Yeah, Brainiac was in the Cantina. I believe that "Brainiac" is the official name for the character, too. Here's the Wookieepedia entry.

I might pick up a Han and Luke Stormtrooper. For some weird reason, we haven't gotten decent versions of these characters yet that haven't been in weirdly-painted comic packs. And I'm a bit nostalgic for Han Stormtrooper because of the old Froot Loops mailaway back in what was it... 96? I searched all over the state (literally) for Froot Loops boxes with the mailaway offer. Those were fun times to be a Star Wars fan!

Space Trooper will be interesting to see. I'm surprised they haven't made one yet. But from the movie, it just looks like it's a Stormtrooper with a backpack, so I doubt it will be all that cool.
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:39 AM

I wish they would more vintage Comic characters from the Marvel series. Wheres my Star Hoppers 8 Pack!!!

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:53 AM

Those figures above do nothing for me.

And they have been slowly doing some Marvel stuff. Here, here, here, and a few others. If they sell well, which (for some reason) it seems like they have, then we'll see some of the more interesting Marvel figures. Right now, they're just easy repaints.

I also had an interesting epiphany while watching my son play with a few Star Wars toys. Granted, he's only one, but he likes the POTF2 Han, Chewie, and Jedi Luke. The articulation, proportions, and all the stuff we care about doesn't matter. I think that would probably hold true for quite a few more years.

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but Hasbro has catered to collectors too much. I think the line will regain its charm when they become toys again.

I think that's why Galactic Heroes was such a success. They made a SW toy, not a SW collectible.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:24 AM

Your right veers the TOYS are more fun than these collectibles. I spent my morning opening my 30th Boba Fetts, and they aren't all their cracked up to be....but it was fun opening them. :D

I like my Vintage figs way more. In fact one example is AMANAMAN. I have both the original and the POTJ version. The Original is much more superior in so many ways! Color, detail, paint apps, articulation isn't over done.

OH! And I forgot to add a Smiley to my above post.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:52 AM

Well, Hasbro has tried for years to make Star Wars more toy-like, and it always fails miserably with collectors. If they give them more heroic proportions, collectors complain. If they give them action features, collectors complain.

I think there are other lines out there that are more toy-oriented and more fun than Star Wars. Speed Racer toys, for example, are pretty sweet for a great price: $10 gets you a car (with an action feature) and a figure. I'd love to spend $10 on a Star Wars toy and get both a mini-rig and a figure.

But would those toys sell? Probably not... Hasbro/Kenner tried something similar in the early POTF2 days with the old Deluxe figures, and those were serious peg-warmers. Same with those EU vehicles.

So, I don't think they'll ever really become "toys" again. And realistically, do any of us really want them to put action features back in the figures? Would any of us buy a mini-rig that has nothing to do with the movies or established EU?
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 08:09 AM

Is there seriously a character called "Brianiac", or is that a typo?


Yeah, Brainiac was in the Cantina. I believe that "Brainiac" is the official name for the character, too. Here's the Wookieepedia entry.



So then Brianiac is indeed a typo. He's got a huge brain, and is not in fact named Brian.

Also DC should probably step up on this somewhere. They wouldn't let Hasbro go around selling a Star Wars figure named Green Lantern or something.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:15 AM

Here are some new pictures of the Lars Homestead. I hope the guy mistyped $49.99 for this price. No footpegs?! Those pictures, price, and write-up details make me want to push people, any people, down the stairs.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 07:59 AM

Here are some new pictures of the Lars Homestead. I hope the guy mistyped $49.99 for this price. No footpegs?! Those pictures, price, and write-up details make me want to push people, any people, down the stairs.


Oh wow, i thought we were looking at like a $20 set before. $50 is comedy gold, especially since he opened it and now it's worth about 47 cents. Although i guess it does come with a moisture vaporator and a wamp rat. e+
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:32 AM

Well....I don't feel sorry for the guy.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 03:13 PM

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Looking at this picture of these upcoming figs, I'm trying to come up with a list of all the cantina alien action figures. Working backwards and not including duplicates or vintage figures, this is what I've got so far.
Star Wars The Legacy Collection:
Brainiac
Trinto Duaba & Dice Ibegon
Wioslea

The 30th Anniversary Collection:
M'iiyoom Onith
Elis Helrot

The Saga Collection:
Momaw Nadon
Hem Dazon
Garindan
Greedo (VTSC)

Original Trilogy Collection:
Feltipern Trevagg
Myo
Dannik Jerriko
Mos Eisley Cantina I (Dr. Evazan, Wuher, Kitik Keed'kak)
Mos Eisley Cantina I (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ponda Baba, Zutton)

Power of the Jedi:
Zutton

POTF2:
Lak Sivrak
Cantina Aliens (Takeel, Nabrun Leids, Labria)
Cantina Pop-Up Diorama (mail-away)

I'm thinking of maybe buying them all. Could you let me know if I've forgotten some from my list. Exclude characters from the Cantina such as Luke, Ben, Han, Chewie, R2 & 3PO.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 03:54 PM

Man, buying too many versions of the same guy without having any color variety can make a person wish they had different colors to tell which is which.

It seems as if there's too many white Storm Troopers, because years from now, people aren't gonna want Storm Troopers anymore, because it seems that they're not as colorful as the R2-D2 family. People like the R2-D2 family, because they've got colors not only to tell who's who and what not, but also because some of them appeared in the movies.

People don't want to just keep buying the same guy over and over and over again, but Star Wars has been pretty lackluster, so I guess it's on all of us. :ulp:

I so totally forgot about the Lars Homestead. I wasn't planning to buy that huge playset. Not to mention it's pretty big and I can't even find a place to put it. I'm probably better off without it anyway.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 05:08 PM

It seems as if there's too many white Storm Troopers, because years from now, people aren't gonna want Storm Troopers anymore, because it seems that they're not as colorful as the R2-D2 family. People like the R2-D2 family, because they've got colors not only to tell who's who and what not, but also because some of them appeared in the movies.


Are you familiar with the words "troop builder"?
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:05 PM

I've spent my evening kicked back just reading the thread about the Lars Homestead playset on Rebelscum.com. There are a LOT of people decrying it, which is refreshing, but the number of people that are like "It sucks but i'll probably buy it anyway" is ridiculously depressing.
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 05:13 AM

Kevin, the ones off the top of my head that you're missing from your list are:

Muftak/Kabe (2-pack)
Bo Shek

And the Lars Homestead is absurdly crappy. I suppose it wouldn't be all that bad for a $20-30 price point, but $50 is crazy. I thought the whole point of these multi-packs was to reduce the price.
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 05:27 AM

I'm thinking of maybe buying them all.

I can probably sell you most of them.
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:49 AM

Kevin, the ones off the top of my head that you're missing from your list are:

Muftak/Kabe (2-pack)
Bo Shek

And the Lars Homestead is absurdly crappy. I suppose it wouldn't be all that bad for a $20-30 price point, but $50 is crazy. I thought the whole point of these multi-packs was to reduce the price.

Oh good, thanks.

I may be in a minority, but I want the Lars Homestead. But only for $20-$25. I wish it didn't come with the figures.
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