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#426 KnuxieChan

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 03:42 PM

It's a very deadly bell. It might, uh, clonk you in the head.
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Posted 11 October 2006 - 05:25 PM

Psh~, have you guys forgotten the classic bell sequences in the Looney Tunes cartoons? AND how Leonardo totalled Norinaga in the 3rd TMNT movie? Bells are DAMN dangerous. :angry:

But seriously, maybe Thunder uses the bell to call down elemental attack or sumthin'. ^^;

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:44 PM

The bells toll for Brocken Jr. & Geronimo.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 06:19 AM

Are they going to lose their Chojin power/die? Judging by Brocken and Geronimo's reactions, I think it'll happen.

If that happens, pissed off Jade!! Hopefully he doesn't lose a limb again... :(
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Posted 17 October 2006 - 08:37 AM

No!! C'mon, Gero!! Quit hiding yer true power!! Crumple up that bell like it was an aluminium can and then stab Lighting and Thunder with Blocken!!

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 10:41 AM

...U...Ra-Ra...?


Fu fu fu, that can work well...or "Jou jou jou". =/

Yude always has a knack for making weird sounding laughs. Ka Ka Ka... ._.;
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Posted 17 October 2006 - 03:14 PM

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B-Brocken Jr....*wibbles* :(

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 03:36 PM

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 06:29 AM

IYA!!! BROCKEN!! ;-;

H...he is dead? Damn, I know they can get revived but still...it's Brocken damnit!
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 07:30 AM

Well, at least it wasn't Geronimo! That's what 19-year-old German boys get for thinking they're good enough to team up with 17-year-old Apache warriors!

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:44 AM

Matto: I know, who cares if they get resurrected every second match? THEY STILL DIE.

....Jade's mind is gonna snap like a twig if he saw that. :lol:


Chyojin: Well, Geronimo didn't come to Brocken's rescue, and both Thunder and Lightning are in the ring. It's probably safe to assume our favorite shaggy-haired Apache met a similar fate beforehand. :D
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:33 AM

Brocken might not be dead, but if he is the New Generation has already failed at restoring the original timeline. If Brocken dies now, he won't be able to save Ataru from the Rainbow Shower and then fight Prisman to a draw. And in addition to that, he won't be able to die after beating Prisman, which in turn means Ramenman won't be nearly as motivated enough to do everything in his power to destroy Prisman once and for all. So if he's dead now, Nisei Ataru and Ramenman should start disappearing like Kevin.

Likewise, if Geronimo is also dead, Nisei Warsman should start disappearing. Because if Gero dies here, he can't find the injured Warsman and take him to the hospital before the Survivor Match finals. Also, if Gero was indeed taken out first, then Yudetamago are being inconsistent again. At this point in the G1 story (after the Dream Tag arc), Geronimo is supposed to be a much better fighter than Brocken Jr.. Hell, by the time of the Survivor Match, Gero is supposed to be better than Warsman!!

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 12:34 PM

Isn't the next storyline is supposed to be a year later after the tag team story arc? And there's that whole chojin graveyard, even though it was used to show how people like Pentagon and such who were killed appear in the crowd and stuff. Just remember the whole series tends to have too many plotholes [Robin Mask never able to fight, yet fights Atlantis in his prime, Ramenman removing his Mongolmask and walks away, etc.]
You also forgot to mention Geronimo becoming the next champion of Hawaii, beating Jessie Mavia.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:01 PM

Ok, I know this is completely off topic...what is happening in V-Jump?

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#440 Devil_Fudou

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 06:52 AM

Brocken might not be dead, but if he is the New Generation has already failed at restoring the original timeline. If Brocken dies now, he won't be able to save Ataru from the Rainbow Shower and then fight Prisman to a draw. And in addition to that, he won't be able to die after beating Prisman, which in turn means Ramenman won't be nearly as motivated enough to do everything in his power to destroy Prisman once and for all. So if he's dead now, Nisei Ataru and Ramenman should start disappearing like Kevin.

Likewise, if Geronimo is also dead, Nisei Warsman should start disappearing. Because if Gero dies here, he can't find the injured Warsman and take him to the hospital before the Survivor Match finals. Also, if Gero was indeed taken out first, then Yudetamago are being inconsistent again. At this point in the G1 story (after the Dream Tag arc), Geronimo is supposed to be a much better fighter than Brocken Jr.. Hell, by the time of the Survivor Match, Gero is supposed to be better than Warsman!!

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good logic~~

but u forgot sth, 'logic' means nth to Yudetamago, LOL
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#441 Idol Choujin Showtime

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:53 AM

Devil Fudou: Yeah, I know, logic doesn't always work in the Niku universe, but when these situations happen the characters do tend to act like there's nothing they can do about... y'know, for the sake of drama. (Off Topic: Is yer avatar pic supposed to be Akira from Devilman?)

Frobman: Actually, I neglected to mention Gero becoming Hawaii champ as it had nothing to do with what I was talking about (It's still pretty cool, though! U-Ra-Ra!!)

HOWEVER!! Here's some other stuff I though about that'll happen if they die:

Brocken is dead, so Ataru has to get a new second-in-command for the Survivor Match. No big deal as he'll prob'ly go with either Buffaloman or Ashuraman, but he'd still have to get a forth man (maybe Wolfman or Jesse Maivia). The Ninja will die against Satan Cross like he's supposed to. Now, because of Ashuraman having a higher position on the team, he won't be fighting in the second match even if wants to avenge Ninja (Ataru wouldn't let him), so the forth man would go in his place and prob'ly also die. Now, considering what a brilliant strategist Super Phoneix is, he prob'ly intended right from the begining to end with a six-man-tag match, so Ashuraman still doesn't get to fight Satan Cross (he might not even find out that he's Samson Teacher). During the tag match, Ashuraman and Buffaloman will prob'ly both be killed (Buffaloman in his original way and Ashuraman possibly by the Rainbow Shower), and Ataru will be killed by the Rainbow Shower (no Brocken to protect him).

Because of this, Ashuraman won't be able to help Kinnikuman beat Satan Cross. Suguru will prob'ly still win, but then, when Team Kinnikuman is trying to get to the second match, Ashuraman won't be there to hold up the spikey-ceiling-trap-thingie (what do you call those) so the others can escape and proceed (this is where Ashuraman is supposed to die). But it's okay, I'm sure in Ashuraman's absence, either Robin, Ramenman, or Geronimo would... oh, wait! Gero is dead! Which means first of all, they weren't even able to get into Osaka Castle to begin with (because they needed five hand prints on the front door or sumfin', I still haven't translated it). And even if they found some way in (like say, Warsman manages to make it and put his hand on the door but then dies), they still only have three choujin holding up the ceiling. But, hey! It's Suguru, Robin, and Ramenman, they should still find a way out.

But even so, without Brocken's death to motivate him, Ramenman will still prob'ly die fighting Prisman (or at least lose). This will result in (most prob'ly) The Samurai/Neptuneman joining the fight earlier. He will undoubtly destroy Prisman and then the six-man-tag match will begin. Now, Ataru was killed by the Rainbow Shower and Geronimo was killed by the Five Disasters a year earlier, so neither of them were erased via their Muscle Prophecy pages being burned. So it'll just be Robin and Neptune who die that way and therefore it'll just be their souls that travel up to the Sacred Temple to try and free Suguru's Kajiba no Kuso Djikara (Burning Inner Strength). Without the extra manpower of Ataru and Gero they might not able to. So... Phoenix kills Kinnikuman, wins the Survivor Match, and becomes king of Planet Kinniku. Mantarou should start disappearing...

But that's only IF Gero and Brocken are dead.

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 08:39 PM

Devil Fudou: (Off Topic: Is yer avatar pic supposed to be Akira from Devilman?)

haha yea~~ it's pretty obvious~
since my signature is Devilman, my user name is Devil_Fudou
so it should be obvious enough that my avator is Akira Fudou ^^"
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 05:02 PM

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...Wait what? D=
Is it just me, or is that bell making them all remember some of their worst fights or something? O_o;;

Edited by ComradeTurbinski, 22 October 2006 - 05:03 PM.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 07:03 PM

Nope, looks like you hit the nail on the head. Very useful bell Lighning has there.

But, on the plus side, at least Gero's okay! Well... besides the mental anguish, I mean...

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 07:15 PM

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...Wait what? D=
Is it just me, or is that bell making them all remember some of their worst fights or something? O_o;;

u r right!!!
it made all of their nightmares pop up in their mind again~!!
but then why will it just affect the legend chojins, and not the IIsei's, B)
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 07:46 PM

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...Wait what? D=
Is it just me, or is that bell making them all remember some of their worst fights or something? O_o;;

u r right!!!
it made all of their nightmares pop up in their mind again~!!
but then why will it just affect the legend chojins, and not the IIsei's, B)

I'm thinking it's because Thunder and Lighting know/have seen the matches the Legends took part in. But since they are all in the past, the future chyojin''s matches haven't been seen by ANYONE yet.
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:34 PM


...Wait what? D=
Is it just me, or is that bell making them all remember some of their worst fights or something? O_o;;

u r right!!!
it made all of their nightmares pop up in their mind again~!!
but then why will it just affect the legend chojins, and not the IIsei's, B)

I'm thinking it's because Thunder and Lighting know/have seen the matches the Legends took part in. But since they are all in the past, the future chyojin''s matches haven't been seen by ANYONE yet.

ok~~ i just got wat it says in the japanese~~~

it's bcoz this bell is inputted with all the nightmares and bad memories of the legend chojins
so probably when it rings it will create sound/brainwaves and make them suffer

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 02:31 PM

I really don't like this new revalation. It just feels like an excuse to nerf the Legend Chojin. I can understand why they need to be nerfed, but they could have done it in a less obvious way.

Then again, Kinnikuman isn't exactly known for it's unpredictable fight matchups. (it's what happens during the fight that counts)
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 05:26 PM

What I'm wondering is this: where's Meat, and is he being affected by the bell as well (I'm sure I saw him go to the past with the others)?
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 09:33 AM

The Ghosts of Barrier-Freeman and Iliohin aiding Geronimo.
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And here's what we've been waiting for... The Apache War Cry! U-RA-RAH!!!!
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Judging by this picture, it seems to be an even stronger version (if it's blowing away most of the audience, that is).
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I think he manged to alter the direction of the sound waves, managing to cover up Thunder's bell.
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