Fun discussion!
Probably the same reason you don't have 500-1000 of the same color and fig in your store.
haha, well i offer all my figures available at anytime, i dont worry about drops.
but yeah i understand its all factory made. i just dont understand why they dont do larger drops, especially with how popular they are.
There's no 100% method available to make sure everyone who could potentially want anything will get them. Because some people aren't going to know they want them until they see them.
It would be great to increase the amounts available to avoid sellouts. I would have liked to have a couple hundred more Robo Force kits than I did have. But, that wasn't possible on this release.
The system is completely different when you get to a mass production situation.
But what PimpNugget says here is correct - you can do a made-to-order product when you don't have to make 500 of them. Hell, I see many customizers who can't make 20 of some kit they solicit...
doctorkent post a few days ago on the Glyos forum that this grey could be re-run in the future if it was popular enough. I wouldn't expect a large production run on any first release Glyos figure that isn't by Onell. It's a big risk. There wasn't much talk about the re-boot of Robo Force among collectors until pics of the NYCC figure started popping up. I wasn't familiar with the original line and wasn't expecting to be interested in the new figure until I saw it, and a lot of people on the Glyos forum said the same thing.
I kept Robo Force under the radar. I knew it was coming back, talked about it in a few places, but I didn't want people to have some small picture on the internet in their minds of a prototype that wasn't reflective of the final product. We get that enough with Mattel product.
Yeah I missed out. It sucks but what are ya going to do? I think I will not be getting this line as it's going to be hard to keep up with I fear. I have too much going on to keep up with drop times nowadays, especially when they sell out in minutes. It's only a toy after all. Wow!? Have I matured or what? Perhaps it's the drugs, haha!
Sorry to hear this! Future releases will be more available.
Color me disappointed. I was initially very sad that this Robo Force reboot was being shoe-horned into Glyos and not its own unique toyline. Now that I see they basically come in prototype colors, and the fact this set doesn't have enough parts to make each individual robot at the same time, I think I'm going to pass on Robo Force. I wasn't looking to play with them. I wanted to display them next to my original figures, but honestly, I think they're ugly toys. They're not mini-figures. They shouldn't be mono in color. These would've looked so much better if the color schemes matched the original robots.
While these may have sold out quickly, I have to assume there are several hardcore Robo Force fans like myself out there that are extremely disappointed. Toyfinity has a real winner with mordles, but I think the ball has been dropped with Robo Force. For me, the negatives severely out-weigh the positives.
Sorry Dr. Kent. I love the mordles line, but I'm not of fan of your vision for these Robo Force figures. Hopefully, future waves will have some color.
Fuzz, I know we've talked about this a bit off boards. But a couple of things:
- eventually, I'm going to do a full post about production timeframes and the complications at every level. Eventually, there will be classic colors versions. And they are going to be more expensive because of paint, parts, and the rest.
- I could easily increase the pieces in the kit so you could get two robots at the same time out of one kit - but do people want the entry level kit to be $20+ bucks?
- as we go, you'll see more paint apps pop up on the figures. There are still comics no one has seen showing the new storyline for the figures. But there are story reasons why they start with mono colors.
- the reason there aren't dozens of US-based groups making mass production indie toys is because the costs are crazy. It would probably cost me more to make one single plastic figure than to make the Glyos figures.
- future colors will be run in higher numbers.
The impression I had regarding the Robo Force line was that the test shot orange (not actually for sale, mind) and the first release grey were not reflective of all future product colors, with figures being released later in the line that would be in multiple colors and resemble the vintage line more closely. I would have been very concerned about the viability of the Robo Force line and ToyFinity's in general had the Robo Force line been 100% true to the vintage line. There is no way on this planet that a Robo Force line slavish to the original would have made money and it certainly wouldn't have sold out in two minutes the first time it was sold online.
This was a fact I had to face when I picked up this license - the original line was a failure. As was Rocks and Bugs and Things. Manglors was the most successful of the trio, believe it or not.
It needed some updating. If things run long enough, you'll see an update to the suction cup. Not in functionality, but in looks.
I think you guys have misunderstood what I said. I never said I wanted figures exactly like the classic line. However, I don't like the way they were designed to fit in with another toy line, instead of having their own identity. That's the very definition of shoe-horning - retro-fitting something to be compatible with something else that it's nothing like. I never even heard of Glyos until joining here not that long ago. To me it's disappointing they don't have they're own gimmicks, but rather those of another toy line. I wanted Robo Force figures, not Glyos figures that kind of resemble Robo Force.
Also, I meant it's disappointing you can't build a complete Maxx and Hundred from a single set. It appears you would need to buy two sets, which you cannot do right now.
And how do you know a RF line more akin to the originals wouldn't sell? Look at RBT for example. Not many remembered that toy line either, but look how popular exact repros of the mordles are.
We'll find out the answer to your last question when I make vinyls in the same scale and design as the original RF. I hope people want them!
As far as the identity being too close to Glyos, I suppose it depends on how you see something like Lego. Lego can be anything. I see Glyos in that manner.
John K.
DoctorKent - the once and future master of ROCKS AND BUGS AND THINGS! now known as MORDLES.
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