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[Daxel101uk]

Now this auction I cant wait to see go down when it get relisted can someone put a link up when it does, NICE

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

Super Rare Toys seem to bring the worst out of people don't they.

Could you guys imagine what would happen if there was a Super Rare Tickle Me Elmo M.U.S.C.L.E.

[walker13.1]

Now this auction I cant wait to see go down when it get relisted can someone put a link up when it does, NICE

No doubt, that will happen.

Could you guys imagine what would happen if there was a Super Rare Tickle Me Elmo M.U.S.C.L.E.

I do remember when Tickle Me Elmos first came out. They were selling like hot cakes. I remember seeing on a news channel some guy was willing to give up a very nice fur coat for one.

[Ericnilla]

i worked at toys r us when those tickle me elmos came out, i made alot of money on the black toy market with those (same with furbys).

As for the DrM, a kinkeshi version seems good enough for me, he is a great sculpt, i have a few of him...

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Also, are we certain this is a Muscle Figure and not a Kinkeshi~? a few figures in this lot look discolored and less glossy.

Edited by Ericnilla, 20 September 2010 - 10:53 AM.

[walker13.1]

Also, are we certain this is a Muscle Figure and not a Kinkeshi~? a few figures in this lot look discolored and less glossy.

I have asked several questions and lead him to this website and Tortle's website (see my previous posts). As soon as I see something else from him, I will defintely post it here.

Edited by vette88, 20 September 2010 - 11:23 AM.

[jkaris]

Color and gloss show that it is a M.U.S.C.L.E. Also, due to the fact that Alex offered him $500 for it would make it's M.U.S.C.L.E.-ness pretty certain, too.

[walker13.1]

Color and gloss show that it is a M.U.S.C.L.E. Also, due to the fact that Alex offered him $500 for it would make it's M.U.S.C.L.E.-ness pretty certain, too.

Let's just say I agree with you Jkaris.

[stoneyface]

i had a bid in too.

i am soooooo tired of people who flaunt the rules of ebay and get buyers to end auctions early. while there is no way in hell i can afford what this auction will go to (my guess is $1800), i would like to at least have a chance at it through legit bidding. i am glad to see at least one seller have the balls to relist it and not take gollem's rule violating buy out. i can't say i feel sorry for him losing out on the one figure he has been trying to get forever by the seller having actual principles and morals. i would have loved to seen his face when he got the email saying "NO!".

too many times these big SR sales get ended early by stupid buy out offers that greedy sellers "think" is an awesome deal. i have to agree with vette that these sellers should be told what is going on. i have told several sellers after the fact that they got ripped off. in every case so far, the seller has responded with "i wish someone had told me" so if you are looking for an affirmation that the sellers would want to know, i think that works pretty well. i have given up reporting buyers for offering buyouts and the sellers taking them (yes, it is the same person 90% of the time who does it on these SR sales so no name needs be given.) every time i report, i get the usual "thanks for informing ebay staff...blah blah blah" and NOTHING ever happens, EVER. i think that is a pretty good indication of their stance. just like in real life. those with the money make the rules. this is also why i started getting the keshi versions of SR's. to me they are just as legit as muscle versions but didn't cost me $1000+. i hope gollem eventually gets his comeuppance on this flagrant rule breaking. it would serve an example that everyone should be allowed to bid.

/rant off

p.s. i just had to add yet another thought here. i think that it speaks for itself that if you play fair and have good karma you will be rewarded. my karma got me a purple claw for $1 and while i am not trying to rub it in or anything like that, i just hope that it causes "certain" people consternation that you can play by the rules and still get good stuff.

Edited by stoneyface, 20 September 2010 - 01:04 PM.

[Muscle Things]

is ticketmaster selling tickets to this?.. I'll be there with Angels Peanuts and a hot dog

[stoneyface]

message from the seller!

Thank you very much for your kind words. Our good standing in the community outweighs everything else. We will re-list the auction at approx. 7pm PST, so please spread the word. We also feel much better about making this situation right again.

Jerry

- peewee1984

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

p.s. i just had to add yet another thought here. i think that it speaks for itself that if you play fair and have good karma you will be rewarded. my karma got me a purple claw for $1 and while i am not trying to rub it in or anything like that, i just hope that it causes "certain" people consternation that you can play by the rules and still get good stuff.

So where did you get the Purple Claw? Did you know it was there, was it by chance? Theoretically, according to your opinion, you should have informed the seller of it's value and offered it back to him so he could get the true value out of it.

Ignorance is bliss. I've sold items cheap before just to learn a year or so later it was valuable. I simply wished I hadn't learned it. I've said it before, If you pay a guy who knows nothing about toys a buck for a figure at the fleamarket that's worth $100 or more, and you know it, are you cheating him? He wanted a buck, he got a buck. You got a rare figure you wanted for a great deal. If you wanted it, and didn't have the money to offer him it's value, told him it's value, you would be kicking yourself for giving up your opportunity.

It's not like he tried to steal the figure, he offered a solid value for the SR, and received a favorable response. who is breaking the rules? The buyer for offering, or the seller for accepting? Don't think for a second that if I was auctioning something, and someone offered me an acceptable buyout I would give a shazbot about the other people bidding on the item. It's only different once money and product have exchanged hands.

I sold a board game at the fleamarket to a guy for $3 bucks. I knew it's value, I checked before selling it. An older gentlemen bought it. Then about 2 hours later this little guy came by and started small talking about comics. Then out of nowhere he asks me if I by any chance had a copy the board game I sold earlier. (First time he came by my table) I said I sold one earlier, why do you ask? Without giving me time to respond, he says, "Man that game goes for like $40+ bucks!" and immediately walked off. I knew he had talked to the guy who bought it, I knew the guy who bought it was a dealer. But this guy did that on purpose just to annoy me, and I could have chased him down and strangled him for being such a blatant @$$. Didn't give a crap about the game, but the guys intentions were enough to still bug me years later. Especially since the game wasn't worth that in the condition I sold it, which was the reason I sold it so cheap at the fleamarket in the first place.

No offense intended, but whenever you guys come up and complain about buyouts, or you say you email the seller to tell them he got ripped off, it comes off as bitter to some people. You didn't get your chance to bid, or chance to fairly win, so you cause more problems. If any of you guys were looking for these rare figures, found one on ebay that nobody else had seen, and won it for a dollar, you would be hoping and praying that someone else looking for them didn't see the auction and email the seller that they got ripped off and the rainbow colored turn launcher in the middle picture is worth 5 grand!!! And I'm pretty sure most of you wouldn't tell the seller yourself if you wanted it.

Edited by Universal Ruler Supreme, 20 September 2010 - 02:47 PM.

[Czarcher]

So where did you get the Purple Claw? Did you know it was there, was it by chance? Theoretically, according to your opinion, you should have informed the seller of it's value and offered it back to him so he could get the true value out of it.

Excellent point(s) URS.
I think you're right on when you mentioned 'Bitterness' about auctions like this .

[Strontium Dog]

So where did you get the Purple Claw? Did you know it was there, was it by chance? Theoretically, according to your opinion, you should have informed the seller of it's value and offered it back to him so he could get the true value out of it.

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No offense intended, but whenever you guys come up and complain about buyouts, or you say you email the seller to tell them he got ripped off, it comes off as bitter to some people. You didn't get your chance to bid, or chance to fairly win, so you cause more problems. If any of you guys were looking for these rare figures, found one on ebay that nobody else had seen, and won it for a dollar, you would be hoping and praying that someone else looking for them didn't see the auction and email the seller that they got ripped off and the rainbow colored turn launcher in the middle picture is worth 5 grand!!! And I'm pretty sure most of you wouldn't tell the seller yourself if you wanted it.

I totally agree URS. If any of us found a rare figure at a car boot sale or a thrift store or a flea market, there's no way in hell we would be offering hundreds of dollars for it, no way at all. We offer whatever we think we can get away with, and rightly so.

At the end of the day, nobody forced the seller to accept $500. Whether people like it or not, there is no rule against someone cancelling an auction and selling a figure as a Buy It Now. And if someone sells something for below market value, then that's too bad for them, they didn't do their homework. But there are rules against a seller cancelling a sale when there is a legally binding contract in place just because you think you can get more money.

Sorry Vette, contacting the seller was a totally douchey thing to do. I don't care if it was Alex who bought the thing, maybe there's some karma there coming back to bite him in the arse, but it was still wrong. You would be plenty pissed if someone did that to you. I know the ultimate decision to honour the contract or not resides with the seller, but most sellers will stiff a buyer if they think they can get more money elsewhere.

[stoneyface]

it is expressly against ebay rules to offer a buy out of an auction. what is going on is against the rules and really dickish

also, i bought the claw at a vintage toy store. i told him after i bought it that was worth money. this was not some guy at a flea market, but a vintage toy store that theoretically would know the value of most of it's merchandise. i let him know after i paid for it. he was excited and congratulated me on the find. he said he would look for them in the future and that was that. he had just put the shoebox of muscle/armyants/etc (mostly muscle) toys out that day. he wasn't upset that he didn't get a high value. like you said he wanted a dollar and he got it.

[Strontium Dog]

it is expressly against ebay rules to offer a buy out of an auction.

No it isn't, it's only against the rules to conduct the buy out off eBay. Not that eBay's rules are worth shizznit in the Big Wide World anyway. It is, however, against the law to back out of a legal contract like the seller did here.

also, i bought the claw at a vintage toy store. i told him after i bought it that was worth money.

Did you tell him it was worth the best part of a grand?

[NamaNiku]

From eBay's How can I end my listing early? help page:

"If there are 12 hours or more before the end of the listing, you can end the listing early without restrictions. If there are any bids on your item when you end the listing, you’ll be asked whether you want to cancel the bids or sell the item to the high bidder.

If there are 12 hours or less before the end of the listing, your ability to end the listing early depends on whether there are any bids on the item and whether the item has a reserve price."

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

it is expressly against ebay rules to offer a buy out of an auction. what is going on is against the rules and really dickish

also, i bought the claw at a vintage toy store. i told him after i bought it that was worth money. this was not some guy at a flea market, but a vintage toy store that theoretically would know the value of most of it's merchandise. i let him know after i paid for it. he was excited and congratulated me on the find. he said he would look for them in the future and that was that. he had just put the shoebox of muscle/armyants/etc (mostly muscle) toys out that day. he wasn't upset that he didn't get a high value. like you said he wanted a dollar and he got it.

Sorry man, I don't let eBay rules decide how much money I'm gonna make if an opportunity to make more arises, unless as has been mentioned the deal is done. I'm not gonna sell something and then try to be an indian giver.

Really where you got it was a rhetorical question on my part to make my argument, I didn't mean to pry, but cool find either way, not trying to demean your score at all. But telling someone what something is worth as soon as you buy it off of them is like the biggest D!CK move I know! Now if you were vague on the value that's one thing, he may have assumed it was a small victory for you with no real issues for him. But I can tell you now that if someone bought something from me for $.50 cents, handed me the change, and then said, By the way it's worth $500 bucks, I would either laugh thinking they were kidding, or I'd have to kill them. I've seen guys do this to people at fleamarkets, and not just to me. They do it for a rise.

However I can also recall a guy who dealt in toys and comics getting a call from an older woman who still had her sons old toys from the 70's and 80's. He went to her house to buy them, but he got so excited at some of the things he was seeing he unintentionally told her the values of some things, and wound up buying nothing that day.

[Biffard]

It's back up!!!!!


It will be interesting to see how high the price gets!

http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item2a0a736299

Edited by Biffard, 20 September 2010 - 06:20 PM.

[SmokinGun]

Holy crap!!!!! 2 Drunken Master!!!!!!!!!

[Biffard]

Sorry smokinGun I saw two but the seller just listed the same picture twice. I'm a little embarrassed.

[McCTXToys]

Holy crap!!!!! 2 Drunken Master!!!!!!!!!

I think it's the same picture.

[jkaris]

So, here is the funny part.

Alex is such a major douchbag.

2nd bidder is Alex, using his old Balucard account. Guess what he renamed it to a couple weeks ago....

 balucard_name_change.png   7.28K   76 downloads

Yep. As if there were any doubt, Alexander Forbes is a pathetic loser.

[Czarcher]

It's back up!!!!!


It will be interesting to see how high the price gets!

http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item2a0a736299

That's just the same picture buddy!

[stoneyface]

No it isn't, it's only against the rules to conduct the buy out off eBay. Not that eBay's rules are worth shizznit in the Big Wide World anyway. It is, however, against the law to back out of a legal contract like the seller did here.



Did you tell him it was worth the best part of a grand?

yes


jkaris are you saying he renamed balucard to littlerubberguys?

Edited by stoneyface, 20 September 2010 - 06:26 PM.

[Ericnilla]

Did anyone ask where he got these figures~? if he is the original owner or got them from another~?