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[Stecase King]

For the errors that Theorgg pointed out, should I go back and fix those?

If you can, go ahead.

[KnuxieChan]

Kin 14-chapter 178, p. 8-- Terry's speech is messed up. P. 9, 'can' should be 'can't!'

Kin 15 chapter 1, page 5-- Terryman's speech bubbles need to be reversed. They're in English-reading order.

Looking over these errors...

Kin 14-chapter 178, p. 8-- Terry's speech is correct, actually. He's saying IF you can use your legs, you can reverse the Kinniku Buster. It wouldn't make much sense if you couldn't use them but somehow still reverse it.

Kin 15 chapter 181, page 5-- Also seems to be correct. It sounds more dramatic to me that he says the Buffaloman part last.

Also, uh. 200-202 will still be volume 16, right?

Edited by KnuxieChan, 25 April 2009 - 06:49 PM.

[Stecase King]

Kin 14-chapter 178, p. 8-- Terry's speech is messed up. P. 9, 'can' should be 'can't!'

Kin 15 chapter 1, page 5-- Terryman's speech bubbles need to be reversed. They're in English-reading order.

Looking over these errors...

Kin 14-chapter 178, p. 8-- Terry's speech is correct, actually. He's saying IF you can use your legs, you can reverse the Kinniku Buster. It wouldn't make much sense if you couldn't use them but somehow still reverse it.

Kin 15 chapter 181, page 5-- Also seems to be correct. It sounds more dramatic to me that he says the Buffaloman part last.

Also, uh. 200-202 will still be volume 16, right?

203 is the last chapter of volume 16.

Edit: in case anyone's wondering, my health problems started acting up again a few days ago. They cleared up just as quickly, but I'm still feeling the after-effects and haven't been able to work on Kinnikuman.

Edited by Stecase King, 29 April 2009 - 11:58 PM.

[SoldierAtaru]

I've been gone for a bit due to a lot of stuff going on, but I've finally finished the Gold Mask arc! And without further ado:

Chp. 206: "I can't believe you fell for the oldest trick in the book!": http://mangahelpers..../releases/11894
Chp. 207: So if the Devil Knights become parts of Akuma Shogun's body, what do they do with Goldman's reformed body?: http://mangahelpers..../releases/11895
Chp. 208: And the moral of the arc: it would have been easier to complete the sharded crystal...with Suguru's horn: http://mangahelpers..../releases/11896

And so with that craziness out of the way...the Tag Team arc will be coming soon. Be prepared for...more craziness.

Edited by SoldierAtaru, 30 April 2009 - 03:55 PM.

[Stecase King]

I woke up the morning feeling a lot better.

Chapter 203: So Phoenix is a douche, yet Akuma Shogun being a petty older brother is considered any better?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=QN1K9GEG

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

I woke up the morning feeling a lot better.

Chapter 203: So Phoenix is a douche, yet Akuma Shogun being a petty older brother is considered any better?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=QN1K9GEG

In some ways, Akuma Shogun was probably more of a formidable thought of a threat when he wasn't "Goldman's disembodied head with the body provided by the Six Devil Knights". At least Goldman tried to stay evil...instead of being a douche.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Stecase King]

Chapter 204: A chapter revolving around Akuma Shogun's sweat.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=TRWFJGPN

Chapter 205: This is it. The beginning of the end of Akuma Shogun.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=BITKOS59

Also, I forgot to mention this a few chapters ago, but how the heck could Akuma Shogun have sparred with Buffaloman in the past if Buffaloman was already executed when he was born? Stupid plotholes.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Matto]

A plot hole is better then a plot retcon.

[Aelia]

A plot hole is better then a plot retcon.

It's kinda both a retcon and a hole. But hey, it's not like much else in Kinnikuman makes sense.

Edited by Aelia, 01 May 2009 - 05:14 PM.

[KnuxieChan]

Also, I forgot to mention this a few chapters ago, but how the heck could Akuma Shogun have sparred with Buffaloman in the past if Buffaloman was already executed when he was born? Stupid plotholes.

Shogun's just that awesome, that's how.

also, I was wondering.. for the past full volume downloads, should I add the front cover and chapter listings to them? I've been kinda lazy at that. XD;;

Edited by KnuxieChan, 01 May 2009 - 05:56 PM.

[Kinnikuman_Muscle]

That would be kinda cool if you could have the chapter you know Knux, then right by it the picture of it to the download of that chapter to the specific volume it belongs to. Like how the volumes have pictures but the chapters don't that's just a suggestion though...

[Stecase King]

Chapter 206: Akuma Shogun's getting desperate, and the climax to the battle draws close!
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=I6XHII93

Chapter 207: Akuma Shogun refuses to lose!
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=EFJ63RCK

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Molanphy]

Knuxie:[...] also, I was wondering.. for the past full volume downloads, should I add the front cover and chapter listings to them? I've been kinda lazy at that. XD;;


It would be nice if you could upload the cover of the volume, the page with the chapeters, in my opinion they don't are that necessary but like Kinnikuman Musle sad, it would be nice to upload it too.

Edited by Molanphy, 02 May 2009 - 08:44 AM.

[Stecase King]

Chapter 208: The end of the Golden Mask arc.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=RZ6NGMCC

That was a fun arc overall, but at the same time, I'm glad it's finally over. Aside from Sunshine and Ashuraman, it also marks the end of the Devil Chojin storyline. Out of all of the arcs in the series, this is the one that got requested most often back when we were still doing the early volumes. Apparently, people really wanted to see Akuma Shogun (and I hope he lived up to the hype). Since I don't have much to say about the arc itself, here are my impressions of the main cast after reading it:

Kinnikuman: easily the most interesting of the group. It's always fun to see what he comes up with.
Terryman: Boring as ever.
Robin Mask: Only interesting when playing off Kinnikuman. Otherwise pretty bland.
Ramenman: I still don't get his popularity.
Brocken Jr.: Does he even have a personality?
Geronimo: I wanted to hate him, but I couldn't.
Buffaloman: Now here's an interesting character.
Warman: has potential, but never really does anything.
Wolfman: Nobody likes him, anyway.
Meat: It seems the author is tired of him. Very little page time lately.

In conclusion: the villains are all much cooler than the heroes.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Kinnikuman_Muscle]

Kinnikuman ---> Always keep's himself in the third eye and makes the story exciting, Even if he's played off as the main protagonist.

Terryman ---> He's pretty much what Terry Funk was but not really, He's just there until the real action begins.

Robin Mask ---> He carries a memo noting all the choujins strength and weaknesses aka "The Choujin Dr.!"

Ramenman ---> He's a "Homicidal, Suicidal, Genocidal Death Defying Maniac" to ever grace the ring in a Death Match!

Brocken Jr. ---> He's a Germany Nazi with no feelings just cold hearted like his personality.

Geronimo ---> Okay he has his moments but he's still one sick dude, The Apache War Cry's the Ish!

Buffaloman ---> I didn't know he wore a prop Jerry-Curl wig, that's kind of shocking made me think he had cancer, lol.

Warsman ---> Besides just standing there the only moment he's ever shined in Kinnikuman was his match against Suguru and the Throne.

Wolfman ---> A worthless waste of time and effort pretty much a write off with no personality a "Filler Character" if you will.

Meat ---> He's Suguru's driving force without the aid of Meat by his side in his matches he wouldn't have had all that courage to defeat the enemy's. He's basically what keeps Suguru on his feet and takes care of him which is good because he makes the story more interesting. In the Throne Arc Meat's more prominent (He competes against Choujin's in the ring) that's all I can say, lol.

[Dai Makai]

I have to agree with you, Stecase. In Kinnikuman, the villains are always more interesting than the heroes. Although during the Throne arc, I'd say that was when Robin and Ramenman really shone... same for Neptuneman...

*shakes fist at Nisei Neptuneman*

Ungrateful bassard.

[Aelia]

Kinnikuman - Kind of a jerk at times, but in the lovable way that his son seems to lack. I'm not sure how this works, but it does.

Terryman - Well, he is a nice guy, and definitely the kind of guy I'd like to have as a best friend (except for when Yudetamago turns him into a jerk for plot device purposes.) Though he'd be more lulzy if he acted as over-the-top as other anime characters from Texas.

Robin Mask - I liked him better when he was (kind of) an antagonist.

Ramenman - I don't really understand what Japan thinks is so cool about him, but he's easily one of the more unique heroes in Kinnikuman.

Brocken Jr - His persona is basically that of a soldier, and perhaps looking for the approval of the older seigi choujins he hangs around (which I kind of assumed after the end of his fight with The Ninja.) And in Nisei, he's a bitter, old, and a former drunk. Yay. =D

Geronimo - To be quite honest, he's actually one of my favorite characters. I mean, he is a pretty stereotypical Native American character, but I think he did in some way transcend that. He proved that despite being just a regular human, he could fight just as well as a choujin. That being said, this point was pretty much rendered moot the second he became a choujin (I thought that was supposed to make him stronger. I was wrong.) I suppose the term 'worfing' applies here, though it also applies to pretty much every other character in Kinnikuman as well. I blame Matto and Dai Makai for linking me to TV Tropes.

Buffaloman - BALDBALDBALDITYBALDBALDBALD. Another one of my favorite characters, as well. I don't think I have to give a long speech about why I do like him like I did with Gero up there, but I will say that I find the charging bull theme very amusing. I realize that Hurricane Mixer is a pretty simple attack, but I still enjoy it as well as his and Mongolman's tag move Long Horn Train.

Warsman - Though I suppose how 'high-tech' his super computer brain is could be debatable, Warsman is still a pretty cool guy...just horrendously underused.

Wolfman - ...He was a main character? I liked him. He doesn't really deserve half the shizznit he has put up with...and he's fun to use in Muscle Fight. :3

Meat - Basically, he's Suguru's babysitter. And trust me, the guy needs one.

Edited by Aelia, 02 May 2009 - 03:52 PM.

[Dai Makai]

Hee hee hee. The troping virus spreads.

[Aelia]

*shakes fist*

CURSE YOU DAI MAKAI! Now I'll be looking at TV Tropes instead of doing productive things! Like eating and sleeping!

[Kinnikuman_Muscle]

I won't lie Suguru is better than Mantaro, I know people think Mantaro is a lot better but Suguru is like the best between both. I say that because the way Suguru handles things from being a coward to being a man it works. Nisei is great for the fact it's the Second Generation of this. But it doesn't have the same feel as this one. All the Arcs in G1 are a lot better cause the storyline puts you as one of the fans in the actual manga so it gives you that special feeling. Nisei doesn't give you that feeling it feels like its been pitched to much so it comes off as a pure imitation of G1. That's how I feel, I know a lot of you will disagree but come on do you really think anyone's as powerful as Suguru in terms of destroying opponents?

[Aelia]

There are actually quite a few, but they'd lose anyway because they don't have the benefit of being the titular character.

[Dai Makai]

Eh, I still prefer Mantaro over Suguru. Maybe it's just because I watched Ultimate Muscle before I found out Kinnikuman even existed.

[Meat's fan]

My thoughts about the characters in the Golden Mask Arc


Kinnikuman: A really good character. He still has his goofy sides which I like. His skill and "never give up" attitude is really admiring

Terryman: A good character. But not much of his fights and wins

Robin Mask: He still has his smarts and skills. But never much of his face. (I wanna see his real face!)

Ramenman: His popularity still confuses me. But he's still cool. Too bad he has to wear that mask.

Brocken Jr.: His fight against The Ninja was awesome! I love his finisher too. Too bad he doesn't have the popularity to be one of the main characters

Geronimo: A strong power for a human. He's really admirable

Buffaloman: I was really suprised of him being acutally bald. I thought his hair was real. It was just a wig!

Warsman: An amazing charcter not much of the popularity. I agree with Kinnikuman_Muscle about his fight in the Throne Arc

Wolfman: His sacrifce was pretty big.

Meat: Still as cute as ever but not on his apperances. Kinnikuman needs him to cheer him on and give him advice. (Remembering the nisei series.... Starting to cry now )

Edited by Meat's fan, 03 May 2009 - 05:33 AM.

[Stecase King]

(I wanna see his real face!)

http://i15.tinypic.com/4t89ezs.png

[Kawaii Kenni]

I won't lie Suguru is better than Mantaro, I know people think Mantaro is a lot better but Suguru is like the best between both. I say that because the way Suguru handles things from being a coward to being a man it works. Nisei is great for the fact it's the Second Generation of this. But it doesn't have the same feel as this one. All the Arcs in G1 are a lot better cause the storyline puts you as one of the fans in the actual manga so it gives you that special feeling. Nisei doesn't give you that feeling it feels like its been pitched to much so it comes off as a pure imitation of G1. That's how I feel, I know a lot of you will disagree but come on do you really think anyone's as powerful as Suguru in terms of destroying opponents?

I'm pretty sure I'd have to agree with you. If you watch Nisei first (or Ultimate Muscle, as most of us saw it first), you can be impressed by the plot points, like "OMG! Checkmate doesn't feel pain, but his great weakness is that he can't use pain to know when to stop" or how much relates to that of the past. It really makes you hungry to know the backstory. Like I really wanted to know about how the other Choujin were before they became good guys, like Buffaloman, et cetera. However, a downside would also be that the theme of "Must get revenge on Mantaro for what his Daddy did" gets tiresome.

Furthermore, when I got into Kinnikuman, the original, I realised how derivative Nisei was. Now, I haven't had the chance to read the manga, so I may not know any of the ins and outs, but I certainly agree with Matto at the very least that the characters at least carry the story through some of its weaknesses in Nisei. But all in all, I would have to say I prefer the first generation. The characters are fresher, you're not relying on too much backstory, and the plot points were actually fun, if they were still predictable.

But, character-wise:

• Kinnikuman - Certainly a lot more tolerable than Mantaro, as while Suguru is a goofball and is zany, wacky, and childish at times, and even though he may whine, he really does know when it's time to stop being that way, and he doesn't give up. He knows that his friends are much more important than himself, and goes into battle knowing this. With Mantaro, it seems more like a gimmick, that if he's scared, the power will well up in him, or rather, for him. I don't suppose the way that the Kajiba no Kuso Chikara shows up in Mantaro (or the way 4Kids presents it to us) really helps in that case. With Suguru, it just seems to be a case of it's there should he need it, and it's Suguru himself who needs to be able to good enough to use it, and he really does show he's worthy.
• Robin Mask - I still quite like Robin Mask, personally, though I can see where people are coming from with the "I preferred him when he was bad-ish" angle. Robin does seem to hold a better view, when he's the gentlemanly bad guy. But I think he does show himself best in the Seven Devils arc. In the Six Devil Knights, he gets less chance to shine, though at least we see some character development of him somewhat in him tearily throwing in the towel for Suguru.
• Terryman - Now, I was originally in the camp of "Terryman's too bland to like", though the manga and in a rare case, an anime adaptation of a manga event really helped me become fond of Terryman. I really love Terryman, when he becomes angry. We saw it against The Maunten, and Asuraman (even moreso in the anime, which did justice to the scene I'm thinking of). Insult Terryman's friends, or say about them being in danger, and you will visibly pay for it, like Asuraman losing two of his arms. That said, Terryman can revert back to being a bit of a bore, or an annoyance. (Him kicking his arms for being the ones to hurt Suguru was a mixed bag for me. It just seemed a bit too ungrateful, though again, I can see why he felt that way. I just wish he could have been disgusted with his arms, but say that he is grateful to Suguru first. After all, his best friend had risked life and limb for his best friend's limbs.)
• Brocken Jr. - Now, I'm not going to lie, I'm biased towards Brocken. I love his character idea, his design, his song, everything. But I can see where people are coming from with his blandness too. I also think that there was a layer of idiocy in Brocken, in his fight against The Ninja. Granted, he overcame this, to make a really good fight, where he showed he had his own staying power, like the others, but seriously, trying to slam The Ninja over and over and over and over, when it kept getting reversed, in the hopes that it might go wrong once? A bit too optimistic, Brocken.
• Geronimo - Okay, I didn't like Geronimo, but darn it, this arc was his shining one. Granted, this looks to be all his awesomeness concentrated into one bit (I have to admit, I was a bit peeved that Geronimo at one point was doing everything), but being able to beat down a Devil Knight on his own, take all these beatings, then still stand up, and support the ring when it was crumbling, and not die, while still being human is true dedication.
• Buffaloman - Again, bias on my part. I loved Buffaloman in his own arc, and him overcoming the Devil was a crowning point for me. It's clear that we can trust Buffaloman from hereon (well, excluding the anime filler where they seem to brainwash him to the dark side again, but that's neither here or there), and that he is a truly lovable rogue. I particularly took joy from his "You said to be a second to Asuraman, for his fight. I WAS, but now you're on your own. I'm out" moment.
• Wolfman - Again, a bit of a bias, as I really, really dislike his character as a whole. Not even his attempt to redeem himself did that much for me. Though I kinda like the idea that he was saying "This time was lent to me by Buffaloman, so I'll use it for real good".
• Warsman - I love Warsman's character as a whole, but yes, he was underused here. Though the idea of fighting inside him was a nice one. It's just a shame that he gets pounded on all the time, by the Big Bad of the Plot.
• Ramenman/Mongolman - I, as well, can't really understand the worship of Ramenman. Though, I somewhat see why he's popular. His song makes me like him a little more, particularly now that I've looked at the lyrics for translation purposes. He has that whole "I've another side to me" angle. Though at the moment, in this arc, I don't quite get where he's coming from. He seems to be just there, and I don't know what he's meant to be doing, as referee. I have to read the rest of the arc, really.
• Meat - This may be just because of the anime, and Meat's voice in Generation 1, but I find Meat to be a little annoying. Then again, hearing him squeak "Ouji! Ouji! Ouji! Ouji! Ouji! Ouji!" all the time, in his voice, can grate on the nerves understandably as much as "Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!". Credit where it's due, the voice actress is cute when she sings, but she comes across as too whiny in the anime, which stains my image of Meat. Meat's a little more tolerable, in Nisei, in the anime, with a somewhat gruffer voice that still does Meat justice.

Sorry for the long post, guys. ^_^;;; I get carried away at times.