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#6776 Blackbeard D. Kuma

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

You are correct in your research. This is what I've been trying to say (Although Fear can also be translated into Terror, hence General Terror).

It makes sense. Akuma Shogun was simply Goldman possessed by Satan. But now that the Gold and Silver masks have merged together and become the Perfect mask, Satan can no longer exploit the weaknesses of Goldman and use him anymore. Now he'll have to directly intervene himself.

We all know that when The Great One finally shows himself, all the other chojin will hear "if you smell what The Great One is cooking."
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 11:15 AM

Of course, we don't know the identity of the Great One yet. He could be ANYONE. Even Kani Besu.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 11:24 AM

im really intrigued by this Kinniku im looking forward to next weeks update to find out more about him also i thought it was cool he used the Muscle Spark
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:40 PM

Of course, we don't know the identity of the Great One yet. He could be ANYONE. Even Kani Besu.


Isn't the Great One Satan, considering that that's who all Devil Choujin are supposed to serve?
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

I wonder if The Ninja will be involved in this? He seems more loyal to Ataru rather than "The Great One".

FIA, can you write down "Lowly Chojin" in romaji? I've been trying to look it up on google, but I keep on getting something else.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

Remember, too, that Yude are more concerned with cool stuff than complex continuity.


Completely agree. I am 99.9% sure there is not a correct answer to this question.

They might not even know themselves. Kinnikuman canon is written in sand, not stone... :lol:

Great theories though. Love reading them.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 04:39 PM

I kind of want to see Peekaboo versus Ricardo from UM, to be honest. That's mostly what I have been thinking about, in regards to the Kinnikuverse.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

I kind of want to see Peekaboo versus Ricardo from UM, to be honest. That's mostly what I have been thinking about, in regards to the Kinnikuverse.


Yeah, but Ricardo probably hasn't been born yet, so...
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:52 AM

I wonder if The Ninja will be involved in this? He seems more loyal to Ataru rather than "The Great One".

FIA, can you write down "Lowly Chojin" in romaji? I've been trying to look it up on google, but I keep on getting something else.


If Buffaloman heard the call, The Ninja will too. We're probably going to see the Devil Knights show up to take on these new Perfects. I have a feeling the Akuma's are going to make up for their losses earlier and clean house. I would not be surprised if Peekaboo decided to fight alongside the Perfects again too to try and make them see things his way, and for Neptuneman to even show up and fight alongside them aswell and backup Peekaboo's claims that killing yourself just means you're not going to get stronger. Which could lead to a Perfect Chojin divide/civil war even.

Ataru might also show up, since most of his team will be present and he might be able to contribute something to this new Kinniku character thing that Yude have going.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:15 AM

I wonder if The Ninja will be involved in this? He seems more loyal to Ataru rather than "The Great One".

FIA, can you write down "Lowly Chojin" in romaji? I've been trying to look it up on google, but I keep on getting something else.


It will be "katou choujin" for 下等超人.

So after having some re-runs of Scramble for the Throne episodes, I got a theory that this Kinniku Perfect was actually a potential candidate during Mayumi's era. He even had one of the signature three techniques, which Mayumi could not perform. However, the 105 superman gods most probably decided that he was unfit to be a king because of his nature and chose Mayumi instead (For the 5 evil gods, this Kinniku Perfect might pose to be a danger for them compared to Mayumi).

From this theory:
- This might further solidify the fact that the gods hate those perfects. The Perfects like Budo in return hate the gods for siding with other factions.
- It matches the "Great One" (I suspect being Gold Man himself)'s action in rallying his own devils to take down those perfects.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:45 AM

Yeah, but Ricardo probably hasn't been born yet, so...


Sure, if you want to be pedantic.
I'm sure the term 'Fantasy Matchup' isn't something that I just coined, just now.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

I found a guy on a chat few days ago...
He told me he had a theory that Strong The Budo is actually Kinnikuman Big Body.
Basically, Big Body was Strongman before the Throne arc, and Big The Budo was Mildman too...
Strong is way more powerful than Big, turning choujin into humans and other stuff, and his personality seems different (in the Mountain match, at least) compared to him too.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:26 PM

I think Kinnikuman Big Body was a weakling. Also, I think that this new Kinniku Perfect might not only know Muscle Spark, but Muscle Inferno (SteCase King brb) and Muscle Revenger too. I mean, he's perfect, he can do anything he wants, right?
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:37 PM

I think Kinnikuman Big Body was a weakling. Also, I think that this new Kinniku Perfect might not only know Muscle Spark, but Muscle Inferno (SteCase King brb) and Muscle Revenger too. I mean, he's perfect, he can do anything he wants, right?

Good point there.
I actually thought he could even show a 4rth secret movement or something like that.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:24 PM

I doubt Budo is Kinnikuman Big Body. Strong the Budo already stated large amounts of story-important stuff to confirm it cant be anyone but King Neptune. There is no way Bigbody could have known any of the stuff he mentioned.

Also the whole argument about Budo acting out of character is totally invalid. He barely had a personality in the Tag Arc, he was just a lackey and then for the short time his true colors showed he was just a big jerk. You also seem to think you dictate how a character should act and that their personalities are completely static and inflexible, unchanging and unable to be anything more than what we have already saw. Budo was impressed by Mountains choice to die as a Chojin than to live in shame as a human. What's so uncharacteristic about that? Budo would do the same.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:25 PM

I assumed Big Body was about as tough as Mariposa, it's just that Super Phoenix was SO MUCH STRONGER.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

Thing about Big the Budo, was that he was a major hypocrite. And, not that this means anything in the Yude-iverse, but he was kinda dead and zombified the last time we saw his face.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:55 PM

Death in the Kinniku-verse is about as debilitating as a parking ticket.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:57 PM

Death in the Kinniku-verse is about as debilitating as a parking ticket.


Or a wet fart.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

Speaking of farts, there should be a true fart cloud type Choujin. Tag that boy up with Puri-Puri Man.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:38 PM

Thing about Big the Budo, was that he was a major hypocrite. And, not that this means anything in the Yude-iverse, but he was kinda dead and zombified the last time we saw his face.

Plus he lost the match, so he should have killed himself if he somehow survived the Muscle Docking (and as I recall he didn't). Plus, he cheated on the fight, so he should have been punished just like Neptuneman, or a death sentence like they are trying now with Peek for not killing himself and not following the rules. This Budo is all about Da Rules
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:49 AM

That's what I am saying... But, then again, it could just be him back to his old schtick again... But, he seems a lot stronger and definitive, this time around.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:17 AM

The reason Budo is acting different is because he didnt really have a personality when he appeared in the tag arc, and Yude is making up for that by defining him more. Same for the Devils. This whole arc seems about giving the old characters more background and personality. Black Hole was a fan favorite, so he returned, won a match and is joining Buffaloman and Springman for more screentime.

Thing about Big the Budo, was that he was a major hypocrite. And, not that this means anything in the Yude-iverse, but he was kinda dead and zombified the last time we saw his face.


I have a feeling he's got his youth back by absorbing the energy from other Chojin and turning them back into humans.

I assumed Big Body was about as tough as Mariposa, it's just that Super Phoenix was SO MUCH STRONGER.


Actually the real reason was because Yude wanted to hurry the plot along because the Phoenix/Big Body team fight didnt involve any Justice Chojin.

Plus he lost the match, so he should have killed himself if he somehow survived the Muscle Docking (and as I recall he didn't). Plus, he cheated on the fight, so he should have been punished just like Neptuneman, or a death sentence like they are trying now with Peek for not killing himself and not following the rules. This Budo is all about Da Rules


I vaguely remember the Chojin Gods plotting against Kinnikuman having King Neptune in chains while they were plotting.

Edited by Evil Lord Proteus, 02 August 2012 - 01:23 AM.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 01:12 PM

I'll admit. I'm more interested in these new guys instead of Budo's team. They have a Tank like Mammothman, A creepy guy, and someone with Dragons on their shoulders. What did Budo have? A dog, a Fish, and a guy with tires on his shoulders. Crushman and Turboman are also awesome.
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Posted 04 August 2012 - 01:16 PM

I liked Marlinman!
And Peekaboo.

I'm not real sure how I feel about this Grim Reaper guy.
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