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#676 Jenny

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:25 PM

Well, weren't we all super wrong. XD

Everything will be much less confusing once its translated. Way too long to wait.. T__T

And a part of me always knew Mars couldn't be a true Seigi Choujin.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:34 PM

Well now, he did start out on their side. They didn't learn about the Completion Bulbs until they had already traveled to the past and after the Ultimate Choujin Tag Tournament was already announced.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 07:14 PM

woah, imagine if Scar became the ture main villan and the past and future segi choujins team up to take him down.....or maby Scar will see the light and forget about the bulbs.

My first idea has a beter chance at happening.

I also have a kinnikuman fan fic I did a while back, I just have to post the link in my sig.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 07:15 PM

Ah, now see, I didn't know anything about these bulbs (wait, are these similar to the bulb/carrot/whatever's in the 2nd UM movie?).

This is what happens when a gal doesn't read Japanese, and makes assumptions when 2 chojins try to kill another chojin right away... *nods*

Edited by Chibibee, 07 February 2007 - 07:16 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 07:24 PM

Watch them use those bulbs to heal Brocken's arm and Kevin's mom. Thats my new theory. And I'm stickin to it. Bet Gazelleman is flippin out in the future right about now.

Edited by geniusbob, 07 February 2007 - 08:00 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 07:56 PM

When 20th Century Meat is telling everybody about these (and about how they can heal any wounds on a human, like say, Alisa?), Scar has this look curious look in his eyes. Now, it seems as though his main purpose for winning the tournament isn't saving Alisa and (by extension) Kevin, but to eat these Completion Bulbs and start up a brand new d.M.p!!

So does he actually say this, or is this speculation? Either way, this arc got much more interesting.

But for some reason I see this as all the more reason for Neptuneman to kick his ass.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 08:29 PM

Okay people, here's the whole deal with Scarface:

The reason Lightning and Thunder came back to the past wasn't to kill Robin or erase Kevin. It was to gain possession of these special bulbs growing on the bottom of the Tag Trophy (the same trophy Kinnikuman and Terryman were supposed to pull out of the Tournament Mountain in the original series) called Completion Bulbs. When a Choujin eats these, they become Complete Choujins. With these, Lightning and Thunder plan to go back to the future and make the world an Akugyo Choujin Paradise.

When 20th Century Meat is telling everybody about these (and about how they can heal any wounds on a human, like say, Alisa?), Scar has this look curious look in his eyes. Now, it seems as though his main purpose for winning the tournament isn't saving Alisa and (by extension) Kevin, but to eat these Completion Bulbs and start up a brand new d.M.p!!


*blinks* So is that what's really happening? Please do say yes. D:
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 09:14 PM

Yes, that's what's really happening.

Additionally, Neptuneman seems to be interested in the bulbs as well.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 09:43 PM

Man, I thought the point of Neptuneman's motivation was that he was so freakishly powerful that he was so bored with everything. I have no idea why he'd want to be even more powerful..
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Posted 08 February 2007 - 01:19 AM

Even if Mars may like the idea of bringing DMP back I still think his main goal is to save Kevin Mask (but he won't admit it cause he's a "Bad Guy"), for those who saw the Demon Seed it's obvious that the bind between those 2 is strong.
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 01:50 AM

I'm pretty sure it's Ilioukhine or Illioukhine. In my tankoban, when he fights Meltdown, his Choujin Navigation says "Ilioukhine."

And yeah, everything will be alright by the end. It's Kinnikuman tradition.

it is "Ilioukhine"~~~~ from my Official Kinnikuman Guidebook :confused:
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 02:10 AM

ok, and about Jade, since the history is changed, that means Blocken Jr. ain't gonna teach him the Red Rain of Berlin, i think everybody know this.

And since the history is changed, Jade has new memories about the hook arm Blocken Jr, Frobman has covered this too.

But what u guys don't know, is that not Blocken Jr. never trained Jade at all, but instead, HE TOUGHT JADE SOMETHING ELSE!! that means, JADE WILL BE USING A NEW TECHNIQUE very soon i guess~
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 04:59 AM

I hate you all for being able to read Japanese.

And.. You're such a meanie Mars. I'm sure he wants to save Kevin too. >__> He IS close to Kevin..
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 05:50 AM

I hate you all for being able to read Japanese.


I second that statement. D<

And.. You're such a meanie Mars. I'm sure he wants to save Kevin too. >__> He IS close to Kevin..


Well, I'm sure saving Kevin was the main reason for Mars going to the past; the chojins didn't know about these 'completion bulbs' until after they reached the past. (right?) So I guess the bulbs are more the 'added bonus' for Mars?
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 07:05 AM

I hate you all for being able to read Japanese.


I second that statement. D<


*gasp*... You... h... hate... m-me...? *sniff-sniff*... B-b-but... but why? I can't help knowing what I know... *sniff-sniff*... BWAAAAAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAH!!!! YOU BOTH HATE ME AND I'M OUT OF EGGROLLS!!! LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING!!!! (throws Don Patchi out the window)

Don Patchi: WAAAAAAA-YOU'LL NEVER GET AWAY WITH THIS-AAAAAAH!!!!
Showtime: (still crying like a little girl) *sniff-sniff* My house only has one floor, you didn't even fall two feet. (pulls out machine gun) Now, *sniff-sniff*, die... (fires at Don Patchi)
Don Patchi: WAAAAAH!!! Y-Y-YOU CAN'T KILL ME! I HAVE MANTAROU'S VOICE ACTOR!!
Gaara: Okay, they get it already! Mantarou, Don Patchi, Vash, and Momoshiro all have the same voice actor! Blah-Blah-Blah, who cares! Talk about something else besides Japanese voice actors for a change!!
Showtime: (long pause)... Who told you you could come out of yer box? I don't need to go get Geronimo, do I?
Gaara: Oh, er, no sir! Sorry sir! Back to the box I go! (leaves)

Anyway...

Well, I'm sure saving Kevin was the main reason for Mars going to the past; the chojins didn't know about these 'completion bulbs' until after they reached the past. (right?)


Correct. Until they talked with 20th Century Meat, the New Generation thought that the Time Choujin's plot was to kill off the Legends. And Scar has been showing concern for Kevin, Check Mate, Mantarou (during the battle royal), and I believe he even cried while they were all listening to Bari-han's and Ilioukhine's last words on Ilioukhine's black box.
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 10:24 AM

Hey... what WERE their last words?

two other questions:

Does Neptuneman seem to have any reasoning or explanation as to why he's doing all this?

What were those gems that he made Seiuchin eat?

Edited by Grizzledman, 09 February 2007 - 10:30 AM.

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 10:43 AM

I haven't translated Bari-han and Ilioukhine's last words yet and Neptuneman has been giving too many conflicting reasons: he wants to help Seiuchin unlock his potential, he wants to revive the Perfect Choujins, he wants the Completion Bulbs, blah blah blah.

However, I do know what the deal is with the crystals: they fuel the Optical Fiber Cross Bomber. It's because of those crystals that those optical fibers protrude from Neptuneman's arm and Sei-chan's tusk.
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 12:28 PM

Question; So is Seiuchin actually considered to be a Kanpeki Choujin now?
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 02:56 PM

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 07:50 PM

Question; So is Seiuchin actually considered to be a Kanpeki Choujin now?


Pretty much. The real question is whether or not this is actually bad. Brutal? Yes. Traumatic for both Seiuchin and the others? Oh, hell yes. But Neptuneman's motives are still quite unclear (at least to me).

Off topic: I can't wait to see Mantarou and everyone's reaction to seeing 20th Century Ashuraman, not realizing that he's a good guy at this point.
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Posted 09 February 2007 - 09:40 PM

And I thought Neptuneman was supposed to have turned good?
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 01:11 AM

Question; So is Seiuchin actually considered to be a Kanpeki Choujin now?

Off topic: I can't wait to see Mantarou and everyone's reaction to seeing 20th Century Ashuraman, not realizing that he's a good guy at this point.

hahahaha~~~ it will be funny~~~
i'm sure they'll just go ahead to kick his butt, and then the Legends will defend Ashuraman
and IIsei will fight the Legends~~ hahahaha
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 07:02 AM

Ah, now see, I didn't know anything about these bulbs (wait, are these similar to the bulb/carrot/whatever's in the 2nd UM movie?).

This is what happens when a gal doesn't read Japanese, and makes assumptions when 2 chojins try to kill another chojin right away... *nods*



Bulb? Carrot? I thought that thing was a cookie... looked to be ginger-flavored, too.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 07:04 AM

Bet Gazelleman is flippin out in the future right about now.


Uh boy, Captain Rants-a-lot himself. XD;
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AND THE MAN IN THE BACK SAID EVERYONE ATTACK AND IT TURNED INTO A BALLROOM BLITZ!

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 09:29 AM

Bulb? Carrot? I thought that thing was a cookie... looked to be ginger-flavored, too.

Actually, it was a root, I believe.
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