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#7126 F.I.A

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

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Oh yeah! My prediction was close!

Edited by F.I.A, 18 November 2012 - 02:43 PM.

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#7127 Blackbeard D. Kuma

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:48 AM

Hmm....it looks like Pentagon has joined in on the fun. His intervention may distract Jack Tea; and Blackhole, being the opportunist that he is, will most surely take advantage of that. I must say though that Jack Tea is way too cocky for his own good. He could have finished off Blackhole already but his arrogance as a perfect chojin has prevented that. If he loses, it serves him right.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:51 AM

Indeed, he is here to help BH!
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

Pentagon enters, let's see if he's got some new technique to win the arrogant Jack.
Either way, I like how these matches last, not as much as to bore to death and not so short as to miss more action. Yudetamago are amazing in the new arc so far.
And thanks F.I.A. even without the scan it's great to know what happens. By the way, how do you manage to get the shupure to work in sunday? I can't get it to work until monday morning!
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#7130 TheBlazngYudekki01

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

OH, MY GOD, PENTAGON JUST GOT INVOLVED IN THIS FIGHT!?! HOLY SH*T!!!!!

So, wait, Jack Tea did not get sucked in to the Extreme Black Hole along with Pentagon?

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#7131 AtarusMuscleSpark

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

He got sucked in, but Black Hole can exhale him at great force or something. I guess. It's what he did in the Kinnikuman Generations Game.



Jack Tea's "Perfect Move" was okay, but he could've done better.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:40 PM

And here's my scan.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:37 AM

Pentagon is probably counting on Black Hole to suck Jack T into his black hole dimension so he can fight him anonymously. Otherwise B.H might get disqualified. That, or having Pentagon inside his pocket dimension might allow him to use Time Stop in some form, or Pentagon to use it without B.H being affected. Just some theories.
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#7134 Zenitram4th

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

Otherwise B.H might get disqualified.


Since it's apparently a No DQ match according to what the announcer says, I doubt that's a problem.

But anyway

DEM DEVILS HEELING IT UP

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DAT PENTAGON RETURN

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#7135 AtarusMuscleSpark

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

I'm not a big fan of these Perfect guys. The reason being that they seem to be too reliant on their gimmicks. Looking back, I've seen several types of Perfects:

1. Gimmick Reliant Perfects - Like Screw Kid, Kendaman, Max Radial, Crushman, Jack Tea. They relied too much on their gimmicks like Max's wheels or Crush's iron glove, that when they were broken, they were screwed.

Proof:
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2. Technique-based Perfects - Peekaboo - Focuses on improving their skills, not relying on gimmicks. I assume Grim Reaper will be this class.

3. Animal based Perfects - Dalmatian, Marlinman - Better then the Gimmick-based Perfects because they have combination skills with their animal abilities(Marlinman's Tongue, Dalmatian's Fangs) and their Perfect-Choujin abilities like Dalmatian's Speckles or how Marlin man manipulated his stinger. Polarman will be this category most likely. Mammothman too if he was a Perfect.

4. Combination of Gimmick & Technique Perfects - Omegaman, Marvelous - They have their gimmick-items, like Omega's hand and Marvelous' Dragons, but they combine them with their skills and other abilities like Omegaman's transformation or Marvelous' Kung-fu. Turboman might fit into this category.

5. "True" Perfect/Full Body Perfects - Those who have mastered their body with little to no gimmicks. Budo, Neptuneman, and Nemisis are these kind. Neptune and Big the Budo had their Magnetic power, combined with their physical skills, so they're better then just technique based Choujins.

which is why I said before when the second wave appeared, "These guys seem more advanced". I meant they look more like Full-body or Combination Choujins and less gimmick reliant. He looks weird but I'm looking forward to Grim Reaper and Turboman's fights to see if they're less like guys like Crushman or Max Radial. Jack Tea is okay, but he's all about his weapons, like his faucets, Drill, and dowsing. Pentagon will most likely utilize Being in Black hole to disrupt the dowsing, get behind him, and super 4D suplex him out of Black Hole.

... Well that was my analysis about why I'm not a big perfect fan. I'm still a fan of Budo, especially since he destroyed Mountain with pure strength, but I want to see less gimmicks, more skills. Feel free to refute and discuss your opinions, as well as who's your favorite perfect. My favorite is Omegaman.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:32 PM

Makes sense. I would have loved to have seen Great Hurricane or Canderaman fight, though.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:18 PM

Makes sense. I would have loved to have seen Great Hurricane or Canderaman fight, though.

Candelaman x Black Hole would have been quite the fight, since the former has light-based powers.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:16 AM

Or DOES HE? It looks like that's what his name means, but there's no way to tell unless we actually see Lod IX in action.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:21 AM

There is one thing that I hate about the Perfect Chojin, they say that they don't use weapons, but that is just a bunch of bullshit!!:
- Neptuneman and Big the Budo use lightning and their Magnet Power as their weapons, Neptuneman uses the spikes on his vest as a weapon. There are times when Budo uses his shinai to attack his enemies.
- Mr. VTR uses his scene changer
- Motorman uses light to blind his opponents
- Bikeman attacks his opponents with his wheels
- Prisman kills his opponents with the Rainbow Shower
- Omegaman uses his Omega Metamorphisis and the fingers on his back (and place the heads of deceased Chojin on them)
- Turboman uses his Revolver Fin (which uses spikes)
- Crushman uses his Iron Glove
- Max Radial uses his wheels to kill his opponents
- Grim Reaper uses his Kill Hat
- Jack Tea shoots boiling hot water at his opponents
- Marvelous uses the dragons on his shoulders during combat

HOW ARE THESE NOT WEAPONS!?! THE PERFECT CHOJIN ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF IGNORANT HYPOCRITES!!!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

Calm down there, chief. They're working heel, kiddo. That's what heels do.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

I believe weapons that are part of one's body (and outfit?) are considered "legal."
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

I believe weapons that are part of one's body (and outfit?) are considered "legal."


I think Umgogo's right. Things that are "part of their own body" or "their ability" are good, however taking a shard of glass and trying to stab an opponent with it is wrong.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

Yeah... Which still doesn't explain Budo's kendo stick... BUT, as I said before... He's working heel, baby.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

... Yeah His Kendo stick is what confuses me. So yeah, they are hypocrites.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Big The Budo (Neptune King) blatantly violated the "no weaponry" rule with his kendo stick, but Neptuneman never resorted to doing that. And yes, anything that's considered an extension or part of their body is fair game to use. As for me, my favorite perfect chojin so far is Budo.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

And thanks F.I.A. even without the scan it's great to know what happens. By the way, how do you manage to get the shupure to work in sunday? I can't get it to work until monday morning!


You're welcome. I am not sure about shupure, but I read my chapter from Yahoo Book Store. It updates just as soon it hits Monday over at Japan.


... Yeah His Kendo stick is what confuses me. So yeah, they are hypocrites.


It has established rather early at Kinnikuman vs Buffaloman that a superman can make use of his costume, with Buffaloman stabbing Kinnikuman with the protruding spikes on his knee gears. I will assume that Strong the Budo has that kendo sword as part of his costumes.

While I am at it, I will like to point out that there will be no further issue until 10th December 2012. Guess we will be spending the next 3 weeks brainstorming what can happen in this fight.

I speculate that

Pentagon will make Blackhole concede and fight Jack Tea himself, therefore making the Perfect Choujin having a continuous match just like the Devil Choujin he dealt with


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

Didn't Neptuneman used the spikes on the floor in the tag arc? Yeah, perfects are hypocrites, even if they try hard not to look like.

Jack Tea was suposed to die mercessly so Pentagon is gonna nail him with some amazing new move.

Also, how many steps to the last floor are there? Warsman must be thinking of automatic escalators or something! Or maybe he's shaving a little bit...
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:17 AM

Didn't Neptuneman used the spikes on the floor in the tag arc? Yeah, perfects are hypocrites, even if they try hard not to look like.


That, I'm not sure off.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

Neptuneman didn't grab the sword boards on the floor, one of them attached itself because of magnetic power, that's why it was legal. Also, yes, if it's part of the costume it's legal, like Robin Mask's pointy helm, Warsman bear claws, etc... it's dirty, not illegal.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:41 PM

Neptuneman didn't grab the sword boards on the floor, one of them attached itself because of magnetic power, that's why it was legal. Also, yes, if it's part of the costume it's legal, like Robin Mask's pointy helm, Warsman bear claws, etc... it's dirty, not illegal.

^This. Neptuneman just exploited the hazards of the environment with his magnetic powers. That, and the fact that those sword-floor panels became an extension of his body. As long as a perfect chojin adheres to this doctrine, there's no rule violation.
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