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[umgogo]

The new Street Fighter V character F.A.N.G. reminds me of Psychoman in terms of dress sense and manner of speech.

[rai]

Well, I guess Brocken Jr. is done unless he finds a way to fix up his hands until the match is over.

[Kaworuden]

Well considering the match isn't over even whith Brocken blacked out... Either Psychoman isn't over and is going to destroy him a lot more ooor... an unknown comeback. But I wouldn't bet on it since Psychoman is a major evil in this arc, like he is plotting against The Man or something.

Also, amazing Brocken tearing the thunder apart with his red rain of berlin, right?

And that leg finisher move from Psychoman reminded me too much of Light and Thunder shit.

Edited by Kaworuden, 07 December 2015 - 01:41 AM.

[BrockenmanJr]

http://bookstore.yah.../shoshi-550379/
Oh god Brocken Jr's hands!

I came here to say exactly that! Man, that's pretty grim, I'd like him to at least get a dignified death if this one doesn't go his way!!

Also, nice to see the Bremen Sunset pulled out of the bag, even if it did very little in terms of damage.

[Kinnikufan89]

I dont feel like checking 300+ pages to see if this wasnt already posted, but you guys know someone translated 3 volumes of the ultimate tag arc? http://wallfloristry...tag-scanlations

 

I dont know if the translation is readable but by looking at a few pages it looks decent.

 

Speaking of which, is there anyway way at all to look at a translate of all the missing chapters before the ultimate tag arc? I can only find up to volume 5

 

Wallfloristry also summarized (and partially translated dialogue) a bunch of the new chapters of Kinnikuman before going on break real recently.

 

I read the pre-Ultimate Tag stuff by buying the manga through Viz Media in The States.  I love the Demon Seed Arc and recommend it to anyone who was a fan of Nisei (even if it didn't bring about the return of Ricardo).

[kingfossil]

Well, i dont live in the states so im not sure how available the manga will be in my area.

 

Honestly, i dont get why Nisei isnt even close in popularity to G1. Right from the get-go theres loads of action and much more gore (as a fan of brocken jr, i lost my sh*t when jade sliced gazelleman with the red rain of berlin and you saw his bones).

Yeah, the humor is nowhere near g1 but even g1 got rid of that midway trough. At the very least they had the decency of not making mantaro a carbon copy os his father, opting for the horny dude instead. (up to this day i wont get whats with kinnikuman not giving a crap about naked bibinba with an apron)

Edited by kingfossil, 07 December 2015 - 08:57 AM.

[Kaworuden]

It's rather easy to get Viz Nisei manga through amazon. That's how I got most of my Nisei collection. There's a couple of volumes that where extremely expensive (must recall number 6 for instance). Must be one of those cases of inexistent reprint of a sort.

Edited by Kaworuden, 07 December 2015 - 12:26 PM.

[rai]

Found the first volume of the demon seed arc in English and downloaded it. I have to say that I actually like that Kevin beat Mantaro. It looks like it caused him to mature in the ring faster than Suguru did. Though I'm not sure why people thought Suguru was unbeatable when he lost a few times. Probably because he burned all his fights and it was the Choujin Olympics.

Well, i dont live in the states so im not sure how available the manga will be in my area.

Honestly, i dont get why Nisei isnt even close in popularity to G1. Right from the get-go theres loads of action and much more gore (as a fan of brocken jr, i lost my sh*t when jade sliced gazelleman with the red rain of berlin and you saw his bones).
Yeah, the humor is nowhere near g1 but even g1 got rid of that midway trough. At the very least they had the decency of not making mantaro a carbon copy os his father, opting for the horny dude instead. (up to this day i wont get whats with kinnikuman not giving a crap about naked bibinba with an apron)

Personally, I feel like the fact that they were in different magazines had something to do with it. Kinnikuman was in Shounen jump, a magazine that was accessible to just about everyone, while Nisei was in Weekly Playboy, a manga that only adults could buy which limits its exposure. Even the anime didn't seem to do that well considering it got canceled twice before finishing with the Mantaro vs Kevin. Then there was the Ultimate Tag Arc, which from what I remember, didn't have a lot of fans due to how they Original gang was mostly portrayed. Feel free to correct me on that though.

Nisei will probably be back though. We need to see what got changed in Mantaro's time, his rematch against Kevin, and him becoming king. Hopefully we  can see more of the new generation be useful with that.

Edited by rai, 07 December 2015 - 01:04 PM.

[BrockenmanJr]

Kinnikuman has had something of a resurgence in Japan, especially amongst younger people (so I'm told), but it seems that with the new series and lots of brand new merchandise, the focus is on the original because that's what sells.

It's comparable to the huge influx of original trilogy merchandise that's emerged from the new Star Wars (although obviously on a much smaller scale); the original is better received and surrounded by nostalgia, so that's what they focus on! I like to think that Nisei won't go unfinished though, although I think the current 'revival' storyline has got a fair bit of life in it, as it's still popular in Japan.

[rai]

I did think about what if they decided to retcon Nisei going from the revival of the original, giving it a newer version and all. But that seemed pretty pointless the more I thought about it. Plus the duo isn't getting any younger.

Edited by rai, 07 December 2015 - 09:37 PM.

[kingfossil]

So did the nisei manga got some alterations when it got distributed by Viz? I heard there was some changes like the removal of the head marks and such.

Edited by kingfossil, 08 December 2015 - 05:02 PM.

[Kaworuden]

 

Found the first volume of the demon seed arc in English and downloaded it. I have to say that I actually like that Kevin beat Mantaro. It looks like it caused him to mature in the ring faster than Suguru did. Though I'm not sure why people thought Suguru was unbeatable when he lost a few times. Probably because he burned all his fights and it was the Choujin Olympics.

As far as I can remember, Suguru only lost to prince Kamehame in the original series. Then to his son in the tag team arc.

And it was like mandatory to get that lost with Kamehame in order to start training for real.

One thing I did not like about Nisei was Mantaro being given a status of prodigy above Suguru, kind of like Nemesis is being shown now. I like Suguru just too much to not seeing him the best hahaha

[Evil Lord Proteus]

As far as I can remember, Suguru only lost to prince Kamehame in the original series. Then to his son in the tag team arc.

And it was like mandatory to get that lost with Kamehame in order to start training for real.

One thing I did not like about Nisei was Mantaro being given a status of prodigy above Suguru, kind of like Nemesis is being shown now. I like Suguru just too much to not seeing him the best hahaha

I'd point out that he lost to Mixer Taite but he cheated with the help of the Chojin Gods.

 

My least favorite thing about Nisei was that it was mostly only Mantaro who was allowed to get any wins. Remember when he practically soloed the entire Gen-X Replacement arc? I also didn't like how Thunder & Lightning just went around beating the shit out of all our favorite classic characters. They could have done the Neptuneman/Mammothman match way better, imo, with Thunder & Lightning on the ropes until shit hit the fan. Though personally I think a better idea would have been for everyone to agree to a 4v4 with Thunder/Lightning/Neptuneman/Mammothman vs Mantaro/Kevin/Suguru/Terry, with the winning team splitting and facing each other for the finale.

[kingfossil]

And some of his victories were just because of dumb luck, but i dont really complain since it makes it more epic in a david-vs-goliath sense, while making the villian more memorable (like the first vegeta fight in dbz, it was epic as hell since every had to gang up in him to steadily weaken him, and i dont sen anyone sayin the fight was cheap)

 

-Ramenman: he crapped his pants, otherwise he would had been splitted in half.

 

-Robin mask: Robin assumed he was dead and lowered his guard

 

-Warsman: overheated because time limit, right during palo special.

 

-Akuma Shogun: Buffaloman had to sacrifice his own body to deal any damage to akuma shogun.

 

In the end Super phoenix  was the worst, lol. He just couldnt resist cheating instead of just using his OP skills for some reason.

[Evil Lord Proteus]

http://bookstore.yah.../shoshi-552964/

 

Aww sh*t, Silverman arrives. And it looks like he achieved his final form.

[bigladiesman]

Bad news. Hercules Factory is closing, at least temporalily. And he talks (and talks well) about us, BTW.

http://herculesfacto...uspension#notes

Edited by bigladiesman, 13 December 2015 - 09:57 AM.

[bigladiesman]

Holy shit, could Silverman someone we already know, under the mask?

Also, it's the first time I've seen Buffaloman being downright horrified while watching a match. He must care a lot for Brocken Jr.

Edited by bigladiesman, 13 December 2015 - 10:08 AM.

[Kaworuden]

Well who might be Silverman body? Or how many people?

Brocken is so down and yet it might be his best hero performance ever. My respect for him is so up right now.

 

It is so bad to not know what they're saying anymore...

I miss F.I.A. so much, here's me wishing he is fine. And wallfloristy being down and letting the resumes out for a while now.

Edited by Kaworuden, 13 December 2015 - 02:48 PM.

[Neverwhere]

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I didn't immediately see a better thread...Growing up, Rollerman and Keyman were two of my favorite M.U.S.C.L.E. figures. I'm nearing the end of the original manga and they have only made a brief appearance on Chapter 221's title page. Do they make any other appearances in any other Kinnikuman comics? Thanks.

[BrockenmanJr]

Ah well, I want to say Brocken put up a good fight, but he really got his ass handed to him. Out of his depth against Psychoman, considering his position amongst the perfects. Still, it was a cool fight to see, even if the finger-breaking still haunts me!

My take on the Hercules Factory situation is this; I don't really understand where this has come from. One person provided translation on a few of lines at most (and a character name, which admittedly is pretty important but seems to be a common misconception, I would've made that mistake myself!) and that was that. Sure, a couple of comments were made that come across as a little harsh if you ask me, but I think it was agreed that the work they're doing is something we all appreciate and were grateful for, and they were doing a damn good job considering they were working alone. Let's be frank, there was no way this was ever gonna get an official translation so when someone in this already small community steps up to the plate we should be supportive. But at the same time, even if it wasn't phrased well, commenting on a mistake shouldn't be interpreted as an act of war; I feel like what was said on here has been taken as a personal attack when it was in no way meant to be that way.

I don't wanna start anything, just thought I'd give my thoughts on a situation that seems unnecessary.
 

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I didn't immediately see a better thread...Growing up, Rollerman and Keyman were two of my favorite M.U.S.C.L.E. figures. I'm nearing the end of the original manga and they have only made a brief appearance on Chapter 221's title page. Do they make any other appearances in any other Kinnikuman comics? Thanks.

 

I think those two might only appear on that page, they're most likely just fan submission characters! The wiki entry for Rollerman says that he taught Sunshine the 'Cursed Roller' technique, which I'd never read before. Anyone got any source on that one?

Edited by BrockenmanJr, 16 December 2015 - 03:07 AM.

[bigladiesman]

My take on the Hercules Factory situation is this; I don't really understand where this has come from. One person provided translation on a few of lines at most (and a character name, which admittedly is pretty important but seems to be a common misconception, I would've made that mistake myself!) and that was that. Sure, a couple of comments were made that come across as a little harsh if you ask me, but I think it was agreed that the work they're doing is something we all appreciate and were grateful for, and they were doing a damn good job considering they were working alone. Let's be frank, there was no way this was ever gonna get an official translation so when someone in this already small community steps up to the plate we should be supportive. But at the same time, even if it wasn't phrased well, commenting on a mistake shouldn't be interpreted as an act of war; I feel like what was said on here has been taken as a personal attack when it was in no way meant to be that way.
I don't wanna start anything, just thought I'd give my thoughts on a situation that seems unnecessary.

I agree. But I don't think the guys at HF are badmouthing us at all, either (this, or they are being very sarcasic).

Edit: For what I'm seeing, HF is a guy working alone, which adds merit to the overall work. Too bad he decided to stop for a time.

Edited by bigladiesman, 16 December 2015 - 02:44 PM.

[kingfossil]

And he sticks to one project at the time.

Most translators pick so many projects at the same time that none of them make any progress (and they get surprised get people get impatient)

[BrockenmanJr]

I agree. But I don't think the guys at HF are badmouthing us at all, either (this, or they are being very sarcasic).

Edit: For what I'm seeing, HF is a guy working alone, which adds merit to the overall work. Too bad he decided to stop for a time.

Oh yeah, I don't think anyone's badmouthing anyone, really. I'm very sad that HF has stopped, because for someone like me who has zero knowledge of Kinnikuman's native language, fan translation efforts are essential. I just don't feel that they should stop based on what was said here, essentially. 

On a manga related note, I saw this pretty interesting picture on Twitter charting the different appearances of Silverman since his introduction! I'm personally quite fond of the new Shogun-esque armour he's got going on! (Source: https://twitter.com/satomaru2go)

[Neverwhere]

Ah well, I want to say Brocken put up a good fight, but he really got his ass handed to him. Out of his depth against Psychoman, considering his position amongst the perfects. Still, it was a cool fight to see, even if the finger-breaking still haunts me!

My take on the Hercules Factory situation is this; I don't really understand where this has come from. One person provided translation on a few of lines at most (and a character name, which admittedly is pretty important but seems to be a common misconception, I would've made that mistake myself!) and that was that. Sure, a couple of comments were made that come across as a little harsh if you ask me, but I think it was agreed that the work they're doing is something we all appreciate and were grateful for, and they were doing a damn good job considering they were working alone. Let's be frank, there was no way this was ever gonna get an official translation so when someone in this already small community steps up to the plate we should be supportive. But at the same time, even if it wasn't phrased well, commenting on a mistake shouldn't be interpreted as an act of war; I feel like what was said on here has been taken as a personal attack when it was in no way meant to be that way.

I don't wanna start anything, just thought I'd give my thoughts on a situation that seems unnecessary.

I think those two might only appear on that page, they're most likely just fan submission characters! The wiki entry for Rollerman says that he taught Sunshine the 'Cursed Roller' technique, which I'd never read before. Anyone got any source on that one?

Yeah, I thought I would see him teaching Sunshine the technique in the manga but haven't.

[Evil Lord Proteus]

Well who might be Silverman body? Or how many people?

Brocken is so down and yet it might be his best hero performance ever. My respect for him is so up right now.

Ataru. If it's multiple Chojin, all of the Fated Princes. this is an ideal time to bring them into this.

Edited by Evil Lord Proteus, 19 December 2015 - 05:24 PM.