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[iwao]

Some people seem to think the only submissions that matter are the "artist" submissions and that I don't get. For me there's a big difference between the 20 second drawings scribbled on folded paper and a drawing that obviously took some time and had thought put into it, though not necessarily from an "artist" and not necessarily perfect. It seems like there is kind of a haughty attitude among some like, "how dare you submit something if you're not an amazing artist!". That sucks the whole fun out of it for me. It becomes more of an art contest and less of a collaboration between like-minded people who want to make something fun and cool together (an initial idea that is not necessarily executed in an artistically amazing way can still be the basis of something really cool).

I do agree with Soupie that having both the logo dude and the pumpkin dude (assuming they both hold strong) is a bit much. I like the pumpkin because it is a more subtle homage--I can see there being a pumpkin guy even if there was no OT connection.

I don't think there was an OT connection or homage intended with the pumpkin guy. I think it's just a simple idea and image that appeals to a lot of people. I think it has over 40 votes now. It will also go down as the example that you don't have to be an artist to get an idea made in this line. Most people voting don't realize it was based on this:


The logo figure is helped by being a finished sculpt that I think looks really good, and a lot of people are considering what they think "fits" OMFG when they vote. It's an obvious choice.

[SmokinGun]

Thats sucks. I just glance throught OT forum and saw the votes. Most of the voters just have like 1 post. Those are the votes that needs to get disqualified. Im sure the administrator will look into that real soon.

Edited by SmokinGun, 19 March 2012 - 07:25 AM.

[Soupie]

Some people seem to think the only submissions that matter are the "artist" submissions and that I don't get. For me there's a big difference between the 20 second drawings scribbled on folded paper and a drawing that obviously took some time and had thought put into it, though not necessarily from an "artist" and not necessarily perfect.

Although I haven't noticed people projecting this attitude myself, I agree with the idea that votes should be for the concept, not necessarily the 2D art. There's lots of people who can conceive some cool ideas for mini-figures, but lack the artistic talent to put it onto paper.

However, when it comes to 3D sculpting for the designs, my preference would be for the finished pieces to be professional-level quality. I would consider all the S1 pieces to be professional-level quality.

However, a lot of it is subjective. For instance, Mini Boglins are a professional toy line and have a strong fanbase, but some of the sculpts in the line are pretty low quality imo. So sculpt quality/complexity doesn't determine how much collectors will enjoy it.

For example, I myself voted for #35 Bear Dude. I looked at that piece and thought, "That would be a rad mini-figure."

I have faith that no matter which sculpts/designs are chosen in the end, Little George will make sure S2 is filled with cool characters and quality sculpting.

[ironmask]

I sculpted a piece for another member (the Rhino-Blasty concept), and it wasn't posted in the final voting thread, so nobody can cry about at least THAT one being a drawing. It has a sculpt, and George left it out for whatever reason.
My sentiment, is much like Eric's... I just don't care anymore.
I'm going to keep sculpting shit that I like.

[fkro6784]

However, when it comes to 3D sculpting for the designs, my preference would be for the finished pieces to be professional-level quality. I would consider all the S1 pieces to be professional-level quality.

Agreed! The quality of the final sculpts should remain at a consistent level. I was happy to see some talented sculptors over at OT offering to help out with concepts that came from people who are not able to execute the sculpts.

[jkaris]

I agree with you guys that series 2 is looking pretty disappointing so far. I don't really like any of the top 5 that much. The voting process does seem flawed. It's as if the designs are being picked based on who the artists are and not the merits or originality of the acual design.

There was one design in the submission thread back when the kickstarter funding was still going on that i REALLY liked but didn't see in the voting thread. It was an angry handgrenade guy. Reminded me of an old video game character or something like that. It was simple but perfect. I thought it would look great in armyman green. Anyone know why it disappeared?

I remember that. That was from the guy who was ripping off old 70's t-shirt artwork and trying to pass it off as his own.
I got a huge laugh when he tried to pass this guy off as his own original work.
I was wholly expecting him to try to pass off Punchy as well, but he never did.

[jkaris]

In regards to the 1 post voters, a lot of those folks are likely people who pledged via Kickstarter and who will pledge again for Series 2. If you cut out the 1 post voters to try to weed out the mom/dad/uncle/cousin voters, you then disregard/alienate those paying customers.

[Aikola]

I sculpted a piece for another member (the Rhino-Blasty concept), and it wasn't posted in the final voting thread, so nobody can cry about at least THAT one being a drawing. It has a sculpt, and George left it out for whatever reason.
My sentiment, is much like Eric's... I just don't care anymore.
I'm going to keep sculpting shit that I like.

The drawing was number 20, I voted for him.

[ironmask]

The drawing was number 20, I voted for him.

Yeah, but, I figured they'd want as many finished sculpts in the line-up for voting. It's kind of weird. He didn't put up my sculpts for Deadface, either. I'm not butt-hurt, as I intend to keep sculpting and producing my sculpts... But, I did find it strange.

[Aikola]

Rhino Blasty transfers into a mini figure really well, kinda strange he put up the drawing.
One thing id have to say is they could have put a cap on how many entries per person, maybe that would have prevented some of the "crap" getting through.

[Soupie]

I'm really looking forward to this stuff called CX5 to be released. Created by amazing artist Adam Beane.

here is is a sample video of him sculpting Matt Damon in CX5

[ironmask]

What kind of stuff is that?
I mean, is it an epoxy base, wax, etc?

Edited by ironmask, 19 March 2012 - 10:10 AM.

[ironmask]

Rhino Blasty transfers into a mini figure really well, kinda strange he put up the drawing.
One thing id have to say is they could have put a cap on how many entries per person, maybe that would have prevented some of the "crap" getting through.

Oh, and thank you. I liked the Rhino Blasty design enough to sculpt it. I hope we can get at least a small batch made on our own, if it (haha) doesn't get voted in. It's equal parts battle beast and MOTU.

I am of the belief, that having a 'concept' thread, where concepts are presented, and those without sculpting ability can 'court' sculptors to work on their pieces... And then have the submission thread, where only finished pieces get voted on.

[walker13.1]

It appears March 31st might be the last day to vote. Some people are saying to have it sooner because voting has slowed down.

http://www.octoberto...6889&start=3285

[PimpNugget]

In regards to the 1 post voters, a lot of those folks are likely people who pledged via Kickstarter and who will pledge again for Series 2. If you cut out the 1 post voters to try to weed out the mom/dad/uncle/cousin voters, you then disregard/alienate those paying customers.

They'll need more than mom/dad/uncle/grandma to get the funding.

10 days and 10 posts to vote?
Registered before voting begins?

[monsterhunter]

I remember that. That was from the guy who was ripping off old 70's t-shirt artwork and trying to pass it off as his own.
I got a huge laugh when he tried to pass this guy off as his own original work.
I was wholly expecting him to try to pass off Punchy as well, but he never did.

Was the handgrenade guy a t-shirt too? I gotta find one! I noticed a bunch of designs in the vote that were ripped off. Ones that were traced outright or traced from a few different designs. Like MUSCLES with nothing more than a different head. I wonder why they weren't removed too. Seems pointless to try and sell the idea of a ripped off MUSCLE to MUSCLE collectors. LOL

[ironmask]

Was the handgrenade guy a t-shirt too? I gotta find one! I noticed a bunch of designs in the vote that were ripped off. Ones that were traced outright or traced from a few different designs. Like MUSCLES with nothing more than a different head. I wonder why they weren't removed too. Seems pointless to try and sell the idea of a ripped off MUSCLE to MUSCLE collectors. LOL

Haha, yeah.
Some pages of the submission thread read, like a stoned conversation at a frat house. I shook my head a lot.

[iwao]

Registered before voting begins?

I thought that would be a good rule, but apparently there are a ton of toy blogs that posted news about the S2 voting and a link over to the forum. I think the kickstarter backers that didn't register on the forum before and new collectors coming in from other sites are the majority of the new members there. The campaigning votes and possible dummy accounts just stand out because they come back-to-back and are for awful designs.

[PimpNugget]

I thought that would be a good rule, but apparently there are a ton of toy blogs that posted news about the S2 voting and a link over to the forum. I think the kickstarter backers that didn't register on the forum before and new collectors coming in from other sites are the majority of the new members there. The campaigning votes and possible dummy accounts just stand out because they come back-to-back and are for awful designs.

Yea, we notice the most obvious ones.

It'll be a bit tougher to catch the guy who has one submission and votes for far different figures for the other 4 slots.

[BaltanII]

I have a feeling I know where some of the stranger votes are coming from. You see, 4chan's /toy/ section has a bunch of people that genuinely appreciate the OMFG line and several submissions came from people who are regulars there or just heard of the S2 submission process and decided to enter. Shirtle, one of the current top five, is one of these (although Kuma/whatever he goes by on October Toys has been a member well before that).

Well, a couple weeks ago someone went through the entries and highlighted many of the more unoriginal and terrible ideas. It was hilarious, but I think it prompted someone(s) to give those things a couple votes. Far as I can tell because I haven't crunched the numbers, those gag votes will have no impact on the final five, so I don't think we have much to fear. Just part of the territory as something becomes more popular, you get more detractors and trolls mixed in the lot. Best way to do it is to leave things as they are and ensure that Series 3 votes are better moderated somehow. Give people a deadline to register or their votes are disqualified, something like that.

[redjarojam]

I knew he would like the extra time to campaign for votes haha.
Called it.

[Metalmonkey]

Hahaha

[eightystoynut]

Not sure if this is were I can post this pic of my SIC custom ersico made me but I wanted to share with you guys, he carved my girls and my initials on the back, made the arms and legs articulate and made the moon on the front gitd.

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[iwao]

Not sure if this is were I can post this pic of my SIC custom ersico made me but I wanted to share with you guys, he carved my girls and my initials on the back, made the arms and legs articulate and made the moon on the front gitd.

His customs look amazing. I was already thinking he is the one I will contact if I want customs for series 2.