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[SoldierAtaru]

Chp. 272: KAGI SHINKEN OUGI: ROCK!!: http://mangahelpers..../releases/15153
Chp. 273: And so with that nightmare over, we'll never have to put up with that much stupidity in this series ever again for the rest of our li-(sees Super Phoenix in the final panel)-OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!: http://mangahelpers..../releases/15155

And with that, we're finally finished the Tag arc! And likewise...it's time for me to take a long-deserved vacation! I do hope to get to the Throne arc eventually but I think I just want to collapse after all I've been through and work on some other manga for a while. I do want to give my thanks to everyone who has been patient with me and who has let me do as much as I have...let alone make all these double posts like I'm talking to myself...maybe I am talking to myself...echo echo echo echo...

[Meat's fan]

Finally, the Throne Arc!!

The Tag Arc is over! Tag Arc is over! Wooooo!! *dances in happiness* No more of that Iron Sweat thing!

*stops* But wait that means......... The Throne Arc......

[SoldierAtaru]

Meat's fan, on Aug 14 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Finally, the Throne Arc!!

The Tag Arc is over! Tag Arc is over! Wooooo!! *dances in happiness* No more of that Iron Sweat thing!

*stops* But wait that means......... The Throne Arc......

It's a sordid compromise: you trade in Iron Sweat for magic pieces of paper that make you eliminated from existence when burned...yeah, Yude were probably really going nuts by the point they thought those up.

[Kinnikuman_Muscle]

Hey what's up? Sorry I haven't been around, I've been really busy as of late with work and such. Anyways, I've done a lot of the chapters in the Throne Arc at least up to 3 volumes. I've been taking a break from it though cause reading Kinnikuman too much will drive me effing crazy. I've actually been working on a new series from the early 90's entitled "Evil Men's High-School". Think of a 21 volume series of a horrific manga that takes place in a High School for Guardians and it's full of fights, demons, devils, rituals and its never ending insanity and madness!

[KnuxieChan]

*hands Ataru 10000x internets* You are awesome, man.

[Matto]

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It's a sordid compromise: you trade in Iron Sweat for magic pieces of paper that make you eliminated from existence when burned...yeah, Yude were probably really going nuts by the point they thought those up.

In their defense (which I hardly ever do, if you forum ghosts read the manga thread), it was a good drama device that didn't make us groan.

And

Spoiler

while the Chojin who died came back in the end

, it was leagues better then what Yude pulled out of their arse in the Demon Seed finale. It just seemed so... lazy.

[SoldierAtaru]

KnuxieChan, on Aug 15 2009, 11:19 AM, said:

*hands Ataru 10000x internets* You are awesome, man.

Thanks...I'll hopefully get to my version of the Throne soon enough though but I just need a long-deserved break after all I've put up with.

And while I haven't read the Demon Seed arc (and only know of the Throne from what I've glanced at the raw scans), I just sort of wonder why the heck Yude gets a bit obsessed with gimmicks as such to add to the impact of a fight. Yeah, they'd probably be "normal wrestling matches" without them...but in Kinnikuman, they're never normal.

[Stecase King]

Chapter 251: Notice how nobody even pretends like Mongolman's identity is a secret?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=XG7XFYF2

I'm still shooting to finish this arc in early September.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

'Stecase King', on Aug 17 2009, 02:29 AM, said:

Chapter 251: Notice how nobody even pretends like Mongolman's identity is a secret?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=XG7XFYF2

I'm still shooting to finish this arc in early September.

And yet several chapters earlier they were all like "it could be...HIM! (picture of Ramenman appeared)" You know for some reason if there were more Choujin with Ramenman-like heads in this series (and if it weren't for the way he went down), it wouldn't be so obvious as it is.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[Dalren]

The REALLY stupid thing is that Suguru had already realized that Mongolman was Ramenman back during the Seven Devil Choujin arc, after Mongolman defeated Springman. He even said "Thank you, Ramenman." And now he acts surprised by the prospect of them being the same? It's not like Yudetamago went to any pains to hide it, even from their own characters, let alone the readers. They could have been a BIT subtle about their hints, but subtlety isn't really Yudetamago's style...

[TheOrgg]

Ataru, thank you.

...so no Kinn_Lady with you and Gonbefan?

:sadOrgg:

Ataru, I'll try and pay you back for all you've done.

[SoldierAtaru]

theorgg, on Aug 17 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

Ataru, thank you.

...so no Kinn_Lady with you and Gonbefan?

:sadOrgg:

Ataru, I'll try and pay you back for all you've done.

I think I want to break from all Kinnikuman fer the moment. I do maybe want to do Lady (unless someone else wants it) but with too much else on my plate (trust me: chp. 1 of KochiKame has been a nightmare and I may regret doing it), it may just be an after thought for the moment.

[Stecase King]

Chapter 252: Screw you too, Yudetamago. That was the hardest chapter to edit in a long time.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=UFO1P4AV

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

'Stecase King', on Aug 18 2009, 06:41 AM, said:

Chapter 252: Screw you too, Yudetamago. That was the hardest chapter to edit in a long time.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=UFO1P4AV

Saw which chapter it was...yeah, its the one I hated too, if only for screwing with the timeline of this series. (probably some other things too but can't quite remember) I can't wait to hear what you hate about this chapter, Tash.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[Stecase King]

I hated the fact that Mongolman's backstory left out so many important details. No real elaboration about why Ramenman felt the need to keep his identity a secret, or even why he kept leaving so suddenly after every appearance. I know Kinnikuman had a theory a few arcs ago about Ramenman taking up the new identity in order to throw away his killing moves, but Mongolman doesn't seem to mind telling everyone he's a Brutal Chojin (or almost killing Kendaman and Screw Kid). Instead, we're left to assume that the whole Mongolman identity was just because Ramenman felt like it.

Plus, on a more technical standpoint, two full pages of text on pictures to redraw so it took forever. Overall, it was a very painful four hours.

[SoldierAtaru]

Stecase King, on Aug 18 2009, 10:46 AM, said:

I hated the fact that Mongolman's backstory left out so many important details. No real elaboration about why Ramenman felt the need to keep his identity a secret, or even why he kept leaving so suddenly after every appearance. I know Kinnikuman had a theory a few arcs ago about Ramenman taking up the new identity in order to throw away his killing moves, but Mongolman doesn't seem to mind telling everyone he's a Brutal Chojin (or almost killing Kendaman and Screw Kid). Instead, we're left to assume that the whole Mongolman identity was just because Ramenman felt like it.

Plus, on a more technical standpoint, two full pages of text on pictures to redraw so it took forever. Overall, it was a very painful four hours.

Unfortunately I think the whole reason behind Mongolman acting like that was to make him "a mystery". Similarly, I never really though before that he really wanted to abandoned being a Brutal Choujin, considering he was embracing it way back when Kendaman and Screw Kid showed up. I always saw him (well more Ramenman) as this obsessively "honorable brute" who did violent things but still played by the rule. (so he wouldn't be a Devil)

[TheOrgg]

Again, props to Tash for the redrawing. That's a hundred times more than I'd ever have thought to do for the series.

[Stecase King]

Chapter 253: Normally, when you're talking about killing someone in a coma and they start crying, that's a sign NOT to do it...
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=ZTKA56TQ


Also, that first panel in the hospital had more meaningful character interaction than this whole arc has.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

Stecase King, on Aug 19 2009, 05:12 AM, said:

Also, that first panel in the hospital had more meaningful character interaction than this whole arc has.

Well for one thing, they finally remember that Bibimba was there...except they soon forget again for the rest of the arc.

[Meat's fan]

SoldierAtaru, on Aug 19 2009, 04:50 PM, said:

Stecase King, on Aug 19 2009, 05:12 AM, said:

Also, that first panel in the hospital had more meaningful character interaction than this whole arc has.

Well for one thing, they finally remember that Bibimba was there...except they soon forget again for the rest of the arc.

Yeah even Queen Sayuri

[SoldierAtaru]

Meat's fan, on Aug 19 2009, 07:54 PM, said:

SoldierAtaru, on Aug 19 2009, 04:50 PM, said:

Stecase King, on Aug 19 2009, 05:12 AM, said:

Also, that first panel in the hospital had more meaningful character interaction than this whole arc has.

Well for one thing, they finally remember that Bibimba was there...except they soon forget again for the rest of the arc.

Yeah even Queen Sayuri

At least Sayuri gets more prominence again once the Throne starts.

[Stecase King]

I really just wanted to get this chapter out of the way. The only way I'm going to make it through the final match of the arc is to marathon the whole thing, so I'm waiting until I'm good and ready so that I don't burn out halfway through it. I still intend on keeping my "first week of September" deadline. Here's the final chapter of volume 21.

Chapter 254: Did Doctor Plot Device just become the most interesting character in the series? How the heck did that happen?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=JU1FT6JX

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:23 AM.

[Matto]

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Did Doctor Plot Device just become the most interesting character in the series? How the heck did that happen?

Yude payed "Spin the Bottle" and it landed on Dr. McPlotty

[Tubba]

'Stecase King', on Aug 25 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

Chapter 254: Did Doctor Plot Device just become the most interesting character in the series? How the heck did that happen?
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=JU1FT6JX

They totally had that all in mind way back during the Hawaii mini-arc.


Totally.

Edited by fuzzbuster, 24 January 2012 - 10:23 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

You know if Dr. Bombe was plotted way back, then things could have been handled differently. In particular is this: considering that he arrived to save Geronimo...when his BFF got crushed in the same exact fight, couldn't he at least attempted to save both instead of just sticking with "the younger Choujin"? Heck, he probably wouldn't even know at first Kinnikuman Great WAS Kamehame: the dream only suggested it was Kamehame getting killed, nothing about the Kinnikuman Great scheme. The only cool stuff with Dr. Bombe is the conversation in the chess game and the "paid with pain" bit...other than that, he's a Rafiki-faced plot device. (sorry, I noticed in his later art he looks more baboon-like)

BTW: I essentially finished vol. 1 of KochiKame this week...so be prepared for my first volume of Throne arc work real soon.