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[jason76basin]

ahhh he beat me to the name lol

[ComradeCuttlefish]

Link to the auction(s)?

[jason76basin]

http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1559.l2649

is my ebay auction i sold

[Walbito55]

see for himself, better example of your main picture 4 pack flesh muscle have a very big white line around the bubble, for me thats is proof of tampered, this pack are open and then resealed. if im wrong tell me. i have doubths and lost a lot of money for the same, years ago im collect hot wheels a lost money for the same.

[Ericnilla]

Then you really don't know MUSCLE 4-packs that well. I have many CASE FRESH 4-packs that looks the same. You should know what you're buying before you buy anything.

I posted a pic right above with the same thing -- http://www.littlerub...ndpost&p=469178

[Walbito55]

Then you really don't know MUSCLE 4-packs that well. I have many CASE FRESH 4-packs that looks the same. You should know what you're buying before you buy anything.

I posted a pic right above with the same thing -- http://www.littlerub...ndpost&p=469178

in this case is out the buble, in my purchase case is inside the bubble, and i see all have this item arrive, if you invest your money you need be sure your purchase no is a counterfeit, the only i try said is im not here to fight, im here to say my version what happened, here no body lost, im return the muscle in same condition received, and only i neeed is clean my name my ebay profile is 100% positive, never have a negative feedback, and if my buyers have doubhts, easy return the item and i return the money is the only seller to makes customer happy.

[jason76basin]

Except somebody did lose.....me. even if what I get back from you is the same.....it looks like I have tampered with items now to the general public(even though most know they are legit)next time if I put them on eBay people will have their doubts.

[ComradeCuttlefish]

The auction ended at $250. The buyer is not complaining about the 10-pack Garbage Cans. The Garbage Cans are valued at around $70 each. That's $210 for the 3 Cans.

So this whole dispute is over $40 worth of 4-packs that Walbito55 claims are resealed?

Would Jasin76Basin be satisfied with accepting a return for ONLY the 4-packs and refunding $40 to Walbito in exchange for the safe return of the 4-packs?

Edited by ComradeCuttlefish, 15 December 2012 - 02:14 PM.

[jason76basin]

Honestly no. When an auction is no return then a buyer wants a return on something he says was opened then sealed back when I know better....I don't like messing with eBay/PayPal garbage like this....that's why I do no returns and try to steer clear of eBay most of the time

[ComradeCuttlefish]

Honestly no. When an auction is no return then a buyer wants a return on something he says was opened then sealed back when I know better....I don't like messing with eBay/PayPal garbage like this....that's why I do no returns and try to steer clear of eBay most of the time

I don't agree with ebay's/paypal's policy of emptying your paypal account to pay a buyer who mistakenly believes there's a problem with what he purchased. I don't believe there is ANYTHING wrong with what you sold. I think the buyer is wrong. And I think you are totally right to not offer refunds on your auctions because of nonsense like this. HOWEVER, if your choices are:


1. Withdraw all of your money from your paypal to avoid before forced to refund $250 to a buyer before ebay takes the money from you. That will result in ebay suspending your account, paypal closing your account, and it will force you to start all over on ebay and paypal.
2. Refund the buyer the $250 and get your items back. And HOPE that they are the same items and everything is fine.
3. Or, work out some sort of compromise. For example, your buyer has complained ONLY about the 4 packs in this thread. The buyer has never complained about the 10 packs. So, you might be able to work out a compromise of refunding only the 4-packs after they are returned to you and keeping the $210 from the 10-packs the buyer keeps while maintaining your ebay and paypal reputation.

I think ebay is wrong. I think the buyer is wrong. However, what's most important to you? You do have options.

[Leitmotiv]

Threads like this need to start an underground movement AWAY from eBay. Organize dammit! Let's make a viable alternative. This monopoly sucks. Competition can only help our situation. Start small, like say all LittleRubberGuys pushing toward another service. Then recruit another site, then another...

Edited by Leitmotiv, 15 December 2012 - 04:25 PM.

[Walbito55]

Except somebody did lose.....me. even if what I get back from you is the same.....it looks like I have tampered with items now to the general public(even though most know they are legit)next time if I put them on eBay people will have their doubts.

im try bussiness with you all time with respect, never said you scammer or something who made public the problem are you, check your ebays profile and thing were is the problem, your 5 star rating is a disaster and no have 100% positive feedback, i never public your ebay nickname and you public my nickname ans call me scammer, i need end my listing for your words and the word of much people here because the bidder are people of here and said my items ares open and then closed, thats not true, and thats affect my reputacion, and my family because now part of my work is sell items on ebay,and you need thinking before talk i guaranteed you, your 6 package of muscle are in the box of usps priority mail in same condition you sent, if that not true i refund your $250, because im win the life honestly, without lies, im thinking the 4 pack are opened but here hundreds of persons no thinking that, i said only my opinion and hope respect, you can sure i respeect your opinions.

[ironmask]

Jason, I may be in the minority, but I think you should let it play out. See if they come back the same, or altered, before pursuing any type of charges or whatnot.
There is a chance that he altered them... But, there is also a chance that he did not. When you get them back, post pictures, and I am sure the board would be glad to help look for any signs of funny business. The fact that the guy came on here, and defended his name/rep to all of us, makes me curious as to how this will turn out. It would suck if they were altered, as much as it would suck for this fellow to take damage to his reputation over a misunderstanding.

[jason76basin]

Oh if it comes back legit I'm gonna be on here saying all is well. When I was saying his name(keep in mind as soon. As he said they were resealed I told him to come here and he didn't) that's when I posted the username to prevent the community from goin through this. It just rubbed me the wrong way how this unfolded and was stated these toys(4packs) were resealed when I knew for certain they hadn't been. I will apologize for sure...because god knows many things in life I've been wrong about and I'm never afraid to say when I'm wrong.

[TMAN]

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im try bussiness with you all time with respect, never said you scammer or something who made public the problem are you, check your ebays profile and thing were is the problem, your 5 star rating is a disaster and no have 100% positive feedback, i never public your ebay nickname and you public my nickname ans call me scammer, i need end my listing for your words and the word of much people here because the bidder are people of here and said my items ares open and then closed, thats not true, and thats affect my reputacion, and my family because now part of my work is sell items on ebay,and you need thinking before talk i guaranteed you, your 6 package of muscle are in the box of usps priority mail in same condition you sent, if that not true i refund your $250, because im win the life honestly, without lies, im thinking the 4 pack are opened but here hundreds of persons no thinking that, i said only my opinion and hope respect, you can sure i respeect your opinions.

Why did you end your auction of the nes-quick promo tube and figures? Is it sold?

[Walbito55]

Why did you end your auction of the nes-quick promo tube and figures? Is it sold?

no only end early because various bidder in the auction are from here and here as a rumored I'm a scammer do not want misunderstandings, prefer first clarify the situation

[jason76basin]

Threads like this need to start an underground movement AWAY from eBay. Organize dammit! Let's make a viable alternative. This monopoly sucks. Competition can only help our situation. Start small, like say all LittleRubberGuys pushing toward another service. Then recruit another site, then another...

this is the exact reasoning that bricklink, once called brickbay, got started many moons ago. (they had to change their name from brickbay because a certain website didn't like them having that name)

[Foxman]

Threads like this need to start an underground movement AWAY from eBay. Organize dammit! Let's make a viable alternative. This monopoly sucks. Competition can only help our situation. Start small, like say all LittleRubberGuys pushing toward another service. Then recruit another site, then another...

EXCELLENT!

I know that Ioffer.com & eCrater.com are some of the next down the ladder for auction sites. They're SO far down the ladder though, it's kind of like comparing a Mom & Pop grocery to Wal-Mart. I've bought one or two things from Ioffer years ago and didn't see any problem with it at all. The fees are WAY less than FeePay & it's much MUCH more two sided... without the big brother dictatorship in place. Plus you can pay with OTHER FORMS OF PAYMENT BESIDES PAYPAL (like credit & money orders). The obvious problem though... it's basically IMPOSSIBLE to sell most stuff there simply because... there is nobody else selling there. Kind of like the perfect building with the perfect set-up... out in the middle of nowhere.

NOW...

For a small community like this one though, where the people who are bidding on most of the important lots are always the same people, I think it would be PERFECT. If someone say, put up a Class A lot (like that one up now), it's not like some guy who doesn't know anything about M.U.S.C.L.E.s is going to wander in and start bidding because he thinks they're "neat". It will likely be someone from around here who wins so there's no need to worry about someone not seeing your auction & bidding it up a few more bucks.

A few other things that may be BETTER than FeePay are the fact that (last time I checked) there are no auction fees until something sells. Meaning you can have something up forever and not pay a dime until it's SOLD. Also, the auctions would be more condensed. Instead of searching through 100's of pages of junk to find a good auction or two, it would all be right there in one spot... ready to sell.

I totally think YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING Leitmotiv!

I think someone needs to post a new thread about it ASAP...

Edited by Foxman, 15 December 2012 - 08:50 PM.

[Foxman]

New Alternatives to FeePay thread started. Let's hear what you have to say on the matter.

Alternatives to eBay thread

[walker13.1]

in this case is out the buble, in my purchase case is inside the bubble, and i see all have this item arrive, if you invest your money you need be sure your purchase no is a counterfeit, the only i try said is im not here to fight, im here to say my version what happened, here no body lost, im return the muscle in same condition received, and only i neeed is clean my name my ebay profile is 100% positive, never have a negative feedback, and if my buyers have doubhts, easy return the item and i return the money is the only seller to makes customer happy.

Next time don't spend money you're not willing to spend. Honestly, your remarks sound like someone who froze when you realized the money you're spending.

If it's not that, then you need to do some research in the area you're collecting before you start buying things. Your remarks are really uneducated. Jason has been nothing but a positive person to deal with on this board.

[jkaris]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170947835816?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649

is my ebay auction i sold

see for himself, better example of your main picture 4 pack flesh muscle have a very big white line around the bubble, for me thats is proof of tampered, this pack are open and then resealed. if im wrong tell me. i have doubths and lost a lot of money for the same, years ago im collect hot wheels a lost money for the same.

Walbito, the auction said clearly, no refunds. You got exactly what was pictured in the auction, correct? If yes, that should have been the end of it.

Jason, having seen the auction picture, I can see how someone who is unfamiliar with 4-packs could think it was a reseal and been upset.

However, Walbito, you can see that white line on the 4-packs from the picture, so you shouldn't have bid on it then.

Jason, if he is sending the entire package back and it arrives exactly as you sent it, then you should refund him the price, minus your shipping costs. It's not your fault that eBay is forcing you to refund him, even though your auction said NO REFUNDS. So at this point all you can do is hope everything arrives in the same condition it left in. But I wouldn't refund the cost you paid to ship it.

[TheRiddler]

what is the point of having the option of no refunds when obviously there can be no matter what?

[imperfecz]

Isn't it too late? Paypal just takes the entire amount out of your account and refunds it to the buyer for you and that's that.

[jason76basin]

Yeah basically PayPal locked down the entire 250 and when the delivery confirmation gets here it automatically goes to the buyer from what the eBay people said when I called them. I'm just curious if there's any way to sell on eBay and make sure no returns mean no returns.

[PlasticSoul]

Yeah basically PayPal locked down the entire 250 and when the delivery confirmation gets here it automatically goes to the buyer from what the eBay people said when I called them. I'm just curious if there's any way to sell on eBay and make sure no returns mean no returns.

No there isn't. Doesn't matter what you say in your auction. Ebay always allows for full refunds and in my experience it includes shipping costs.