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[Tubba]

Oh lol, Ataru, your Mangahelper comments on 297 cracked me up.


(also hell yes Warsman's choudenji spin)

Read through all of your translations, I have to say, your comments on the end of the translations are hilarious, Ataru (even if I do not condone referring to TTGL).

Edited by Tubba, 28 November 2009 - 03:31 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

Oh lol, Ataru, your Mangahelper comments on 297 cracked me up.


(also hell yes Warsman's choudenji spin)

Read through all of your translations, I have to say, your comments on the end of the translations are hilarious, Ataru (even if I do not condone referring to TTGL).

Yeah, I don't know how that comes out, particularly since I've never seen past the fanservice ep. of Gurren-Lagann. (then again I blame that for not being very good with coordinating with Sci-Fi and not really caring enough to get the DVDs or watch it online or something) But hey, great to have another fan of the silly commentaries.

Chp. 309:
Motorman: Had his fight ruined by Ramenman and is the second-in-line currently in the ring.
Bikeman: Had his identity stolen by Ramenman, wants revenge.
Parthenon: Is...just some guy running into Ramenman hype who has no idea whatsoever of anything.

So...which has a stronger case to fight Ramenman?: http://mangahelpers..../releases/17991

[Tubba]

That was a pretty good fight, even if the Ramenman/Motorman battle was... Underwhelming, to say the least.



Also, drills were a staple of mecha about thirty years before Gurren-Lagann - Both Getter-2 and Koutetsu Jeeg have them as gimmicks. (Yes, I'm a mecha geek.)

[SoldierAtaru]

That was a pretty good fight, even if the Ramenman/Motorman battle was... Underwhelming, to say the least.



Also, drills were a staple of mecha about thirty years before Gurren-Lagann - Both Getter-2 and Koutetsu Jeeg have them as gimmicks. (Yes, I'm a mecha geek.)

What ruined the chapter is that Motorman's brain turned off the moment Ramenman appeared. The previous chapter had him using several attacks on Terry and he could still have used them and some strategy instead of just "keep using Drill-a-Hole Spark" over and over and hope it rips holes through him. Heck, even if Motorman realized he was going to get destroyed, he could have at least attempted to hurt Ramenman a bit so it would weaken Team Kinnikuman a bit more...but no, instead we get...well, utter annihilation.

[Tubba]

Yeah. I mean, we know Ramenman is favourised and all, but after Motorman utterly DESTROYING Terryman (Who's one of the strongest Justice Chojin, I mean, he subdued Neptuneman and Neptune King with a single Texas Condor Kick), Ramenman jumps in and uses... Two or three attacks and Motorman is dead.

[Matto]

This is absolutely no different from some villains fighting Mantaro in the anime. Case in point, his match with Baron Maxamillion. Baron beats the living hell out of him in the first half, then the later half it's the other way around while HE'S UNCONSCIOUS and makes stupid errors along the way.

Still was an awesome match though.

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Yeah. I mean, we know Ramenman is favourised and all, but after Motorman utterly DESTROYING Terryman (Who's one of the strongest Justice Chojin, I mean, he subdued Neptuneman and Neptune King with a single Texas Condor Kick), Ramenman jumps in and uses... Two or three attacks and Motorman is dead.

What's important to keep in mind here is that Ramenman came in completely fresh since he just entered the tournament, whereas Terryman was pretty worn out after his fight with King The 100 Ton. It just goes to show what a difference there can be if a chojin continues to wrestle after being badly damaged, since Ramenman and Terryman are pretty much in the same tier.

[Tubba]

Yeah. I mean, we know Ramenman is favourised and all, but after Motorman utterly DESTROYING Terryman (Who's one of the strongest Justice Chojin, I mean, he subdued Neptuneman and Neptune King with a single Texas Condor Kick), Ramenman jumps in and uses... Two or three attacks and Motorman is dead.

What's important to keep in mind here is that Ramenman came in completely fresh since he just entered the tournament, whereas Terryman was pretty worn out after his fight with King The 100 Ton. It just goes to show what a difference there can be if a chojin continues to wrestle after being badly damaged, since Ramenman and Terryman are pretty much in the same tier.

Yeah, right.

[Matto]

The only tiers in Kinnikuman are non-Worfed and Worfed.

Every other tier does not exist, like Smash Bros tiers.

[SoldierAtaru]

As beat up as Terry was, at least Motorman made an attempt to use things other than just spamming Drill-a-Hole Spark. When Ramenman showed up, he just became stupid letting himself get dismantled.

Chp. 310: (in horrible Tina Turner ripoff-voice) WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CHOUJIN!!!: http://mangahelpers..../releases/18006

[Blackbeard D. Kuma]

Yeah. I mean, we know Ramenman is favourised and all, but after Motorman utterly DESTROYING Terryman (Who's one of the strongest Justice Chojin, I mean, he subdued Neptuneman and Neptune King with a single Texas Condor Kick), Ramenman jumps in and uses... Two or three attacks and Motorman is dead.

What's important to keep in mind here is that Ramenman came in completely fresh since he just entered the tournament, whereas Terryman was pretty worn out after his fight with King The 100 Ton. It just goes to show what a difference there can be if a chojin continues to wrestle after being badly damaged, since Ramenman and Terryman are pretty much in the same tier.

Yeah, right.

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here. Are you disagreeing that there can be that much of a difference between being fresh and worn out, or that Ramenman and Terryman are in the same tier?

@SoldierAtaru - What happened to Motorman is common in Shonen manga. A new challenger steps in and helps the victim from being pummeled as a result of not being at 100%. From that point on, the new challenger wins through sheer dominance so as to give off the impression of being a formidable adversary (this is just like how characters "job" to newcomers in order to make them look more impressive/stronger).

Your point still stands though that Motorman should have put up a better fight. His attacks were extremely brutal and dangerous; and if he played it smart, he could have caused a lot more damage to Kinnikuman's team.

One thing that I really didn't like about this arc was how Big Body "jobbed" miserably to Super Phoenix. That made absolutely no sense since Big Body is supposed to be a top tier character. Getting a muscle revenger right away and that's it? What a poor way of handling a powerful villain on Yude's part.

Edited by Blackbeard D. Kuma, 01 December 2009 - 04:28 PM.

[SoldierAtaru]

@SoldierAtaru - What happened to Motorman is common in Shonen manga. A new challenger steps in and helps the victim from being pummeled as a result of not being at 100%. From that point on, the new challenger wins through sheer dominance so as to give off the impression of being a formidable adversary (this is just like how characters "job" to newcomers in order to make them look more impressive/stronger).

Your point still stands though that Motorman should have put up a better fight. His attacks were extremely brutal and dangerous; and if he played it smart, he could have caused a lot more damage to Kinnikuman's team.

One thing that I really didn't like about this arc was how Big Body "jobbed" miserably to Super Phoenix. That made absolutely no sense since Big Body is supposed to be a top tier character. Getting a muscle revenger right away and that's it? What a poor way of handling a powerful villain on Yude's part.

Yeah I know about how characters seem stronger by beating up on weaker ones. (I remember one scenario vividly from YYH...I think it was Kurama who essentially was literally nothing but a living mass of flesh being beat up after several tough fights, then Yusuke goes in and destroys that opponent) But that still doesn't excuse how Motorman actually did techniques like Battery Claw or the flash attack on Terry but avoided them altogether with Ramenman. I didn't expect Motorman to win and I knew the inevitability, I just wanted him to do way more against Ramenman to at least help Team Zebra more than just be jobbed so easily.

And Big Body...he really should have done more but essentially he revealed everything at the very end of his fight: he didn't even want to be associated with the whole thing and was just sort of used by the God of Strength without realizing what he was getting into. At least the anime got something right by allowing him to try to put up a fight. (one thing it did get right, considering I'm still shocked they spent 15 seconds on Ashuraman/Satan Cross)

[Tubba]

Yeah. I mean, we know Ramenman is favourised and all, but after Motorman utterly DESTROYING Terryman (Who's one of the strongest Justice Chojin, I mean, he subdued Neptuneman and Neptune King with a single Texas Condor Kick), Ramenman jumps in and uses... Two or three attacks and Motorman is dead.

What's important to keep in mind here is that Ramenman came in completely fresh since he just entered the tournament, whereas Terryman was pretty worn out after his fight with King The 100 Ton. It just goes to show what a difference there can be if a chojin continues to wrestle after being badly damaged, since Ramenman and Terryman are pretty much in the same tier.

Yeah, right.

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here. Are you disagreeing that there can be that much of a difference between being fresh and worn out, or that Ramenman and Terryman are in the same tier?

@SoldierAtaru - What happened to Motorman is common in Shonen manga. A new challenger steps in and helps the victim from being pummeled as a result of not being at 100%. From that point on, the new challenger wins through sheer dominance so as to give off the impression of being a formidable adversary (this is just like how characters "job" to newcomers in order to make them look more impressive/stronger).

Your point still stands though that Motorman should have put up a better fight. His attacks were extremely brutal and dangerous; and if he played it smart, he could have caused a lot more damage to Kinnikuman's team.

One thing that I really didn't like about this arc was how Big Body "jobbed" miserably to Super Phoenix. That made absolutely no sense since Big Body is supposed to be a top tier character. Getting a muscle revenger right away and that's it? What a poor way of handling a powerful villain on Yude's part.

Terryman being beat up didn't have much to do with it. They just wanted Ramenman to do something cool.

[Kawaii Kenni]

Yeah I know about how characters seem stronger by beating up on weaker ones. (I remember one scenario vividly from YYH...I think it was Kurama who essentially was literally nothing but a living mass of flesh being beat up after several tough fights, then Yusuke goes in and destroys that opponent)

I think that says more about how weak and cowardly Bakken was, than how strong Yuusuke was or how weak Kurama was by that point. Particularly since Kurama had performed one of his trademark "This will probably kill me" moves, what with his Youki being cut off.

[SoldierAtaru]

Yeah I know about how characters seem stronger by beating up on weaker ones. (I remember one scenario vividly from YYH...I think it was Kurama who essentially was literally nothing but a living mass of flesh being beat up after several tough fights, then Yusuke goes in and destroys that opponent)

I think that says more about how weak and cowardly Bakken was, than how strong Yuusuke was or how weak Kurama was by that point. Particularly since Kurama had performed one of his trademark "This will probably kill me" moves, what with his Youki being cut off.

Well it was more or less the only thing to come to mind when the suggestion was made. So sue me for being an idiot.

[Kawaii Kenni]

No, no, just sue me for being a massive YYH fanboy. (I would say that, having cosplayed as Kurama. ^^;;)

Edited by Kawaii Kenni, 02 December 2009 - 01:04 PM.

[TheOrgg]

Yo, Knux! The 26-30 link ain't working on the TK site.

[Matto]

I'm so proud of you all for derailing this thread into a semi-YYH discussion.

Further derailing, what's the what the hell is going on with it V-jump translation status at? Since Christmas holidays (sans work) is coming up soon, I can lend a helping hand if you all want me to.

PM me if need an extra helping hand for the holidays.

[Tubba]

Yo, Knux! The 26-30 link ain't working on the TK site.

Mangahelpers? They were down yesterday, but work now.

EDIT: Hold your horses! Ramenman's 37 second match being faster than Mammothman vs. Leopardon? Dubious. Highly dubious.

Edited by Tubba, 03 December 2009 - 05:29 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

Yo, Knux! The 26-30 link ain't working on the TK site.

Mangahelpers? They were down yesterday, but work now.

EDIT: Hold your horses! Ramenman's 37 second match being faster than Mammothman vs. Leopardon? Dubious. Highly dubious.

Take any comments about time, particularly by the announcer, lightly: I already did a whole rant about how Ninja/Satan Cross was way longer than what Super Phoenix claimed it was, particularly if you consider everything going on around it. (trust me, one of the chapters I"m preparing is saying that everything that essentially happened in around a chapter occurred in less than a minute) Besides, Mammothman/Leopardon will be a record that will never be broken, no matter how many Motorman corpses we need to prove it.

Edited by SoldierAtaru, 03 December 2009 - 12:09 PM.

[Matto]

I want to make a Time Warp joke, but I just can't do it.

I don't have the will within me. =(

[TheOrgg]

I'm talking about teamkinniku.50webs.com.

[SoldierAtaru]

Chp. 311: The chapter that proves that concepts from Peter Pan do not belong in Kinnikuman: http://mangahelpers..../releases/18057
Chp. 312: You know, it's not "Team Zebra" anymore...it's actually "Team Bikeman...and his 4-man Pit Crew": http://mangahelpers..../releases/18058

[Tubba]

Well, the Möbius band thing was pretty smart.


It just struck me, Big Body should've put Wolfman on his team.

Edited by Tubba, 04 December 2009 - 03:28 AM.

[SoldierAtaru]

Well, the Möbius band thing was pretty smart.

I'm probably going to bring this up later but somehow I think it would have been cooler for Bikeman to continue on the Superloop Road but get distracted by moving the opposite side with the Mobius, allowing for Ramenman to knock him off. But somehow it was less the attack...and more merely just "let's just make up a name so it seems like Ramenman had this as part of his arsenal".

Edited by SoldierAtaru, 04 December 2009 - 06:01 AM.