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[walker13.1]

The voting was even a bigger joke then last time.

I haven't been keeping track, but it's sad to hear they haven't done anything about the vote issue. They barely got series two funded, and it only got funded because of last ditch effort of the customs. They don't care, they got their money, so why should they try to do anything about the vote issue? The money is just the same.

[PimpNugget]

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[monsterhunter]

Am I the only person who thinks barbarianaut is a blatently obvious mashup of these two figures?


"ooo, i just got series 1 slug zombies and i now have an idea for an OMFG submission." That's a total lack of creativity.

Puggernaut should have been disqualified for cheating and being a lame design. I'd rather pay 50 cents for a real MUSCLE that I'd actually enjoy instead of paying $2+ for a lame MUSCLE ripoff.

But really, why would the OT guy care? He knows damn well that there will always be lame sheep who will buy whatever is put in front of them. Every figure in every color just to feel like they belong to some "community" or part of some imaginary team. Either that or they have OCD that borders on autism.

[jkaris]

They barely got series two funded, and it only got funded because of last ditch effort of the customs.

That isn't correct.

Series 1 shot up much quicker because the pledges for the exclusive colors we included in the Kickstarter, whereas with Series 2, they were done outside of Kickstarter. So not only did Series 2 fund with 100 more pledgers, but they also got quite a few more exclusive color pledgers, too. 500+ pledgers for Series 2 will make the 200 of each color sell out that much quicker.

In regards to the 1 poster voting drama, it is a very tough decision to have to make. One one hand, you want to include as many people as possible and not alienate anyone, because you want the line to grow. On the other hand there are always going to be people voting for a friend's entries even though they will never buy a set. I think how they are doing it is ok, as it is giving the line a lot more exposure and gaining new followers.

If I were to change anything, I would say make the vote for 10 characters and choose the top 5 vote getters and also anyone who doesn't pick 10, doesn't count. If you can't take enough time to pick 10 of your favorites, then you certainly aren't going to shell out the cash for a set.

[walker13.1]

That isn't correct.

Series 1 shot up much quicker because the pledges for the exclusive colors we included in the Kickstarter, whereas with Series 2, they were done outside of Kickstarter. So not only did Series 2 fund with 100 more pledgers, but they also got quite a few more exclusive color pledgers, too. 500+ pledgers for Series 2 will make the 200 of each color sell out that much quicker.

In regards to the 1 poster voting drama, it is a very tough decision to have to make. One one hand, you want to include as many people as possible and not alienate anyone, because you want the line to grow. On the other hand there are always going to be people voting for a friend's entries even though they will never buy a set. I think how they are doing it is ok, as it is giving the line a lot more exposure and gaining new followers.

If I were to change anything, I would say make the vote for 10 characters and choose the top 5 vote getters and also anyone who doesn't pick 10, doesn't count. If you can't take enough time to pick 10 of your favorites, then you certainly aren't going to shell out the cash for a set.

I guess my memory is off. I could have sworn that I made a comment with about 10 days of it left or so that they were going to need a bunch of "mid level" pledgers because that seemed to be where the majority of the pledges were at that time. Then all of a sudden the customs came out (I think at the $100 or $200 level). That and a little bit of other things helped to push it.

The voting is a sham, period. If what PlasticSoul said is true, people are most likely creating fake accounts, and having their friends vote. These people are most likely not going to be buyers according to the last go around for series two. If they did buy for series two, why the close call near the end?

Edited by vette88, 29 September 2012 - 05:50 PM.

[jkaris]

There is definitely a lot of bogus votes, but just like with Series 2, George was able to identify those and remove them. The one guy from series 2 who had all his family and friends vote (and who subsequently got those votes removed) went on to have his sculpts cast and repro'd by someone. So I wonder if he was able to sell any to all those friends and family that voted for him?

[McCTXToys]

Well, glad voting went this way! Now that series 3 will be all designs I don't like and with all the 'colorways' being produced for each set, collecting OMFG has just become too much.

[PlasticSoul]

I am still excited for cool color combos of puke knight. So many options now and since i don't collect sets or want a bunch of colors i can make my favorite combo cheap and easy.

I am leaning towards black knight with lime green puke but gold is so tempting.

[bizrebellion]

I must say it,

when i was collecting S1, i went nuts, i currently have every colourway except for the LRG cherry red (gold is pre-ordered), but their ALL solid designs.

As for S2, im not all that keen on all the sculpts, so i'll only be keeping the Kickstarter black and flesh that i pledged for to help keep the toyline alive.

As for S3, im having doubts about even pledging through kickstarter, yes i had 3 designs, and no, none of them got through, but i dont give 2 shits about that,

what gets me is the ammount of bogus voters that get away with it, and the ammount of weak designs that get through, i like some, but not all of this series.

Im slowly losing interest in the OMFG scene, JK, get a toyline started for OUR beloved site, you know we got some serious talent here

[walker13.1]

Im slowly losing interest in the OMFG scene

Me too. For series 2 I'm only going to get what I bought on kickstarter, and for series 3 nothing. Why pay into something that is a sham to begin with, and the controllers of the vote have zero motivation to fix it?

[iwao]

I'm still looking forward to getting the S2 figures and I really like two of the S3 designs, so that's enough to keep me in it. I think the voting is fine, and I don't think it will change. The complaining won't end either. It will be part of every series.

Keeping up with collecting every color won't be possible financially. Plum, Metallic Gold, and Stealth color change for S1 look awesome and I'm getting them, but it's crazy that the first series is up to 14 colors now and it probably won't end there.

[Strontium Dog]

They should weight the voting. Your vote should count for as many rounds as you've voted for..

So Series 4 voting would work like this: if you voted for OMFG Series 1, 2 and 3 in the past, your vote carries four times as much weight as someone who just registered to vote for Series 4.

This way you reward long-term participation in the community and you need a lot more fly-by-night shills to swing the voting in favour of your shitty He-man-figure-with-dog-head-stuck-on, or whatever other generic piece of shit nobody else would normally touch with a bargepole.

[jkaris]

So Series 4 voting would work like this: if you voted for OMFG Series 1, 2 and 3 in the past, your vote carries four times as much weight as someone who just registered to vote for Series 4.

That would be a nightmare and a half trying to keep track.

[walker13.1]

They should weight the voting. Your vote should count for as many rounds as you've voted for..

So Series 4 voting would work like this: if you voted for OMFG Series 1, 2 and 3 in the past, your vote carries four times as much weight as someone who just registered to vote for Series 4.

This way you reward long-term participation in the community and you need a lot more fly-by-night shills to swing the voting in favour of your shitty He-man-figure-with-dog-head-stuck-on, or whatever other generic piece of shit nobody else would normally touch with a bargepole.

Good idea in practice, but we're already dealing with people who can't keep control of it now. If they tried something like this, I think it would be a bigger mess.

[bizrebellion]

I just dont see the point in spending money on toys that i dont care for, its a shame man, i really like PukeKnight,

i guess i'll just have to settle for the AP.

[iwao]

Good idea in practice, but we're already dealing with people who can't keep control of it now. If they tried something like this, I think it would be a bigger mess.

I can understand being turned off by a design if you think the artist abused the system, but there was nothing out of control about the S3 voting. Open public voting is a basic principle of this toyline.

[walker13.1]

I can understand being turned off by a design if you think the artist abused the system, but there was nothing out of control about the S3 voting. Open public voting is a basic principle of this toyline.

Open public yes, but not open to creating fake accounts, bunch of so called "newbies," ..... I know some can say well the newbies (if they're legit people) can buy too, so why not let them vote. Again, if this was the case for series 2, then why the last dictch effort to get them funded? If there were many legit newbies for series 2, it wouldn't have needed the custom push at the end. There would have been a LOT more buyers at the lower levels. It's a shame the controllers of the vote have zero interest of making sure the votes are legit.

Why do you think in the Forever Contest there is a 10 post rule? Now obviously the Forever Contest isn't as popular as the OMFG project, but it's there for a reason.

[bizrebellion]

I agree, they should at least instate the 10 post rule, it would certainly help against the 'fake' accounts being made.

But, if fake accounts still get made, shurely it would be pretty easy to spot someone within those 10 posts by their tempriment/attitude?

Most of the voters for this series STILL have only the 1 post, and will they be pledging? I dont think so. Why? Maybe because their the same person/people

Edited by bizrebellion, 01 October 2012 - 05:44 AM.

[iwao]

Open public yes, but not open to creating fake accounts, bunch of so called "newbies," ..... I know some can say well the newbies (if they're legit people) can buy too, so why not let them vote. Again, if this was the case for series 2, then why the last dictch effort to get them funded? If there were many legit newbies for series 2, it wouldn't have needed the custom push at the end. There would have been a LOT more buyers at the lower levels. It's a shame the controllers of the vote have zero interest of making sure the votes are legit.

Why do you think in the Forever Contest there is a 10 post rule? Now obviously the Forever Contest isn't as popular as the OMFG project, but it's there for a reason.

The customs weren't needed to fund series 2. If it was going to fall short on the low level pledge options alone, they would have rolled 1 or 2 of the exclusive buyers into the kickstarter. If the $1,000 pledge for an exclusive set was part of the kickstarter like it was for S1, I think S2 would've gone way over $20K.

The Forever Contest is free with no future commitment to buy anything. There is a future commitment to offer up free toys of your own in a new contest. The 10 post rule for that prevents people from signing up, getting some free toys, and never showing up again.

Not everyone that buys toys posts on toy message boards. I never did before OMFG got me back into collecting. If my first experience with OMFG was finding out there is a fee in order to vote, or a post limit on the forum in order to vote, I think it would have come across as elitist and I wouldn't have bothered with it. That's just my opinion.

[walker13.1]

The customs weren't needed to fund series 2. If it was going to fall short on the low level pledge options alone, they would have rolled 1 or 2 of the exclusive buyers into the kickstarter. If the $1,000 pledge for an exclusive set was part of the kickstarter like it was for S1, I think S2 would've gone way over $20K.

The Forever Contest is free with no future commitment to buy anything. There is a future commitment to offer up free toys of your own in a new contest. The 10 post rule for that prevents people from signing up, getting some free toys, and never showing up again.

Not everyone that buys toys posts on toy message boards. I never did before OMFG got me back into collecting. If my first experience with OMFG was finding out there is a fee in order to vote, or a post limit on the forum in order to vote, I think it would have come across as elitist and I wouldn't have bothered with it. That's just my opinion.

Biz said it simple: "Most of the voters for this series STILL have only the 1 post, and will they be pledging? I dont think so. Why? Maybe because their the same person/people."

I guess the thing that is bugging me is there isn't any accountability. When I want to back something, I want it to be legit. Not just, hey, we know there was a fake account issue, but we decided to do nothing about it. It got funded, so there.

Edited by vette88, 01 October 2012 - 07:45 AM.

[iwao]

What is the fake account issue? That new voters don't post regularly on the forum? I remember George saying in S2 that they caught a dummy account and didn't count those votes. I don't think he said anything about fake accounts this time around.

I think a lot of the new voters will pledge as long as they like the final 5 enough to buy them. If the 100 people that voted for the pug don't pledge, maybe it's because they don't like the other 4 enough to buy a set. We'll see how it plays out.

Of the top 7 vote getters, 5 don't interest me. If S3 turned out to be Barbarianaut, Fruit Punch, Bananja, Ten Can, and Snake Girl, I would pass on series 3. No big deal. I agree with biz that I don't see the point in spending money on toys I don't care for.

[jkaris]

It's pretty easy to spot dupe accounts.

[PlasticSoul]

What is the fake account issue? That new voters don't post regularly on the forum? I remember George saying in S2 that they caught a dummy account and didn't count those votes. I don't think he said anything about fake accounts this time around.

I think a lot of the new voters will pledge as long as they like the final 5 enough to buy them. If the 100 people that voted for the pug don't pledge, maybe it's because they don't like the other 4 enough to buy a set. We'll see how it plays out.

Of the top 7 vote getters, 5 don't interest me. If S3 turned out to be Barbarianaut, Fruit Punch, Bananja, Ten Can, and Snake Girl, I would pass on series 3. No big deal. I agree with biz that I don't see the point in spending money on toys I don't care for.

Like Jkaris said there will always be a fake votes attempted with dupe accounts but George handles that. I assume it's not difficult to IP match and also not difficult to simply not count those votes so that shouldn't be an issue really.

It's the 1 post voters that are bothering people but again it's not bothering George so it doesn't matter. Hell even the tie-breaker has a few votes from 1 post people already, meaning they didn't even vote for any submissions last month but now they all of a sudden want bananja to win.

[jkaris]

Hell even the tie-breaker has a few votes from 1 post people already, meaning they didn't even vote for any submissions last month but now they all of a sudden want bananja to win.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the 1 post voters in the tie-breaker thread (people who didn't vote in the main Series 3 vote) won't be counted. BTW, when I checked yesterday, Fruit Punch was ahead by a 2 to 1 margin.

[Strontium Dog]

Hell even the tie-breaker has a few votes from 1 post people already, meaning they didn't even vote for any submissions last month but now they all of a sudden want bananja to win.

I'm sure you didn't intend to imply any skulduggery on the behalf of Bananja , but for the sake of accuracy, there's six "1 post voters" in the tie-break thread so far, and they've split 3-3 for Fruit Punch and Bananja.