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[Dai Makai]

Let's start a drinking game. Every time now in the series someone gets Worfed, take a shot. Every time Mantaro gets knocked unconscious in a fight but isn't declared the loser, take a shot. Every time Suguru acts completely out of character and is a jerk because he doesn't trust the New Generation, take a shot.

Every time Yude switches a tournament bracket around just so they can have more Worfing, down a keg.

Any suggestions to this list would be appreciated.

[Jenny]

How about everytime someone takes the piss out of this manga just for what it naturally is and always has been, go throw a keg at that person's head.

Suguru acts completely out of character

what

[Dai Makai]

Well, I always considered Suguru to be the Sailor Moon of shonen when it came to forgiving people and having respect for other people's friendship. He certainly bore no ill will towards Buffaloman at the end of the Devil Choujin arc, or Ashuraman at the end of the Dream Tag arc, or pretty much anyone at the end of the Throne arc.

And in this case, Suguru's in complete disbelief of the New Generation after the whole fiasco with Alisa. That could be understandable at first, but he threw Meat out of his home or at least yelled at him because Meat trusted them and he still views them as enemies. Whereas all the others, starting with Robin Mask, have come to view them as allies I just haven't picked up on that vibe from Suguru just yet.

[KnuxieChan]

Suguru's an asshole sometimes. I noticed that during the early episodes of the anime. He seriously just made me go "Wow, what a douche."

I personally think Suguru's being cautious because he's afraid of the new generation stealing his spotlight. He CAN be an egomaniac..

[Evil Lord Proteus]

You know... for supposed fans of the series, some of you certainly take every possible oppertunity imaginable to talk shizznit about yude, the manga and it's characters. Im starting to think there should be a rule against that, because it is starting to border on the verge of outright trolling.

[Matto]

You know... for supposed fans of the series, some of you certainly take every possible oppertunity imaginable to talk shizznit about yude, the manga and it's characters. Im starting to think there should be a rule against that, because it is starting to border on the verge of outright trolling.

1) We don't razz the characters, we razz how predictable this arc has been.
2) I razz Yude because this arc has been a mess of plot devices. I don't hate the characters, I hate the arc.

Come Sunday, poor Wally will be rabid again. I predicted this last Sunday. I have this feeling it'll happen.

I'll mimic this cry if it happens.

[MoonNeko]

Wow O_O why so much bee-eye-itching guys? There's no need for it.

If you don't like what's going on, that's fine. But you don't have to bash the characters. Like Knuxie said, Suguru was a pompous looser in the beginning. He was seriously full of himself to a degree, but he learns from his mistakes, it's not like he had a lot of friends, pretty much only Meat.

Anways, I LOVE where this is going, however..I too hope that Wally can break Warsmans palo because honestly..I want him to beat the shizznit out of Warsman and Mammothman..then he can beat the shizznit out of Neptuneman. That would be what I want to happen.. but then again, it's not like I can predict what's going to happen I'm just along for the ride :3 I cannot WAIT to see what happens to Wally xD I'm still SHOCKED that Mantaro wasn't the one to talk him out of this. I love the panel where Mantaro gets all teary eyed T__T Wally is probably his next best friend next to Meat xD

Anyways, I second the 'stop bashing Yudetamago' :3

[Dai Makai]

I'd say that only a true fan is critical of a series, but that's the ultimate sign of someone being a jerk about the story.

I do like a lot about this arc. The return of Mammothman for one, Kevin not hogging the spotlight, and the fact that Mantaro's able to pick up the slack and give Chaos advice and support (if only out of necessity), are genuinely nice aspects of this plot I like.

It's just this tournament is very long, and it's during tournament arcs that Yude REALLY starts Worfing it up, just for the purpose of having the big final climactic battle between Kinnikuman and the chief villain at the end.

[Idol Choujin Showtime]

My only problem with this arc so far is that Brocken's nazi ass stole Super Bad Ass Geronimo's spotlight and, what i assume to be (since I have yet to translate this), implications that Mari was Kinnikuman true love instead of Bibinba...

PS: I'm back!!!! Wheeee!!!

Don Patchi: No one even noticed you'd left.
Showtime: (devours Don Patchi and punches Nezumi-Otoko) Anyway, did I read someone liking Hiyama Nobuyuki? Is so, awesome, another seiyuu fan!! Do the Luck-Luck Dance, Ikkaku!!
Nezumi-Otoko: (coughs up blood) That's nice but... what'd I do to you...? (passes out)

[KnuxieChan]

Me, I still hate this arc and what's happening in it ( Warsman better not lose. >[ ) but.. eh. You can't please everyone.

[Aelia]

My only problem with this arc so far is that Brocken's nazi ass stole Super Bad Ass Geronimo's spotlight and, what i assume to be (since I have yet to translate this), implications that Mari was Kinnikuman true love instead of Bibinba...

PS: I'm back!!!! Wheeee!!!

Don Patchi: No one even noticed you'd left.
Showtime: (devours Don Patchi and punches Nezumi-Otoko) Anyway, did I read someone liking Hiyama Nobuyuki? Is so, awesome, another seiyuu fan!! Do the Luck-Luck Dance, Ikkaku!!
Nezumi-Otoko: (coughs up blood) That's nice but... what'd I do to you...? (passes out)

What can I say? Geronimo is ultimately doomed to get overshadowed by more popular characters even though I like him ;_;

I don't think Yude is trying to make people believe that Mari was Kinnikuman's true love and if they are...they're just trolling. I hope.

And before I go...

[Black Oracle]

Me, I still hate this arc and what's happening in it ( Warsman better not lose. >[ ) but.. eh. You can't please everyone.

I hope Warsman wins too!

My only problem with this arc so far is that Brocken's nazi ass stole Super Bad Ass Geronimo's spotlight and, what i assume to be (since I have yet to translate this), implications that Mari was Kinnikuman true love instead of Bibinba...

I don't think Yude is trying to make people believe that Mari was Kinnikuman's true love and if they are...they're just trolling. I hope.

And before I go...

Suguru loves Bibinba whole-heartedly i believe and they are fine as a couple. In regards to Mari, I get the feeling that she is portrayed as a possible love interest that Suguru could have pursued but didn't in the end, but that doesn't mean that he has forgotten about her. She's still apparently a special lady to Suguru. That's why their meetings are kinda complicated now. There's perhaps a feeling of what could have been with them.

That lucky dance looks like it would hurt your toes btw!

[Meat's fan]

Me, I still hate this arc and what's happening in it ( Warsman better not lose. >[ ) but.. eh. You can't please everyone.

I hope Warsman wins too!

My only problem with this arc so far is that Brocken's nazi ass stole Super Bad Ass Geronimo's spotlight and, what i assume to be (since I have yet to translate this), implications that Mari was Kinnikuman true love instead of Bibinba...

I don't think Yude is trying to make people believe that Mari was Kinnikuman's true love and if they are...they're just trolling. I hope.

And before I go...

Suguru loves Bibinba whole-heartedly i believe and they are fine as a couple. In regards to Mari, I get the feeling that she is portrayed as a possible love interest that Suguru could have pursued but didn't in the end, but that doesn't mean that he has forgotten about her. She's still apparently a special lady to Suguru. That's why their meetings are kinda complicated now. There's perhaps a feeling of what could have been with them.

That lucky dance looks like it would hurt your toes btw!

Yeah I agree. Besides Mari got over her feelings for Suguru.

And the luck dance is a bit weird, but i'm amazed how he dances it.

[Aelia]

Suguru loves Bibinba whole-heartedly i believe and they are fine as a couple. In regards to Mari, I get the feeling that she is portrayed as a possible love interest that Suguru could have pursued but didn't in the end, but that doesn't mean that he has forgotten about her. She's still apparently a special lady to Suguru. That's why their meetings are kinda complicated now. There's perhaps a feeling of what could have been with them.

That lucky dance looks like it would hurt your toes btw!

That's kind of how I felt about it. Besides, I don't think one ever really gets over their first real love. They can only accept the fact that what's done is done and move on with their lives.

Also, I tried to do that luck dance. It does hurt.

Edited by Aelia, 19 October 2008 - 06:28 PM.

[Dai Makai]

I know what you mean. Of all my sister's ex-boyfriends, the only one she puts any energy into staying in touch with is her first one, but that's more due to her/my parents becoming friends with his parents.

[Jenny]

Okay, I just wanna say something before hand, and that's that I fricking KNEW this was going to happen. Knuxie, didn't I say this was gonna happen?!













Neptuneman/Mammothman team up for the absolute WIN.

[Drax]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/38itx0

this should be the one shot in WSJ

For those who remember this post I'd like to add that this story is also in the 29 years anniversary manga/book of Kinnikuman that was released in August.

This book contains: the stories of Kinnikuman (all three series), chronology of Kinnikuman (with merchandizes, video games, tv series....), other manga done by Yudetamago...
But the good thing is that it comes with a Special Kinkeshi (kinnikuman with his mask removed), this Kinnikuman story that Chopa posted but also one about Warsman.

Warsman's story is about his childhood and his chojin father, who was also a Kikai (machine) Chojin but was enhanced by some Doctor Willy looking doctor to the point that he was able to use Bear Claw and kill his opponnent. The father autodestructed himself right after when he realize what he did in front of his wife and child (warsman). Later, Warsman's mother dies (she had some kind of illness). Then the story show him being adult and being recruited into some Chojin training camp (probably a relatively evil/communist one). This is in there than he first meet Baron Barracuda (Robin Mask) who sneaked/spied inside the building and finally help him to getout.

Sadly I can't scan the whole story (the book is relatively thick and I don't want to destroy it) but I'll scan a few pics for those interested like me in Warsman (fanboy inside).

For thsoe interested in getting the book, some japanese ebay seller (I bought mine from him) has some in store (you can also check the kinkeshi):
http://cgi.ebay.com/...id=p3286.c0.m14

Edited by Drax, 21 October 2008 - 02:42 AM.

[Meat's fan]

Okay, I just wanna say something before hand, and that's that I fricking KNEW this was going to happen. Knuxie, didn't I say this was gonna happen?!













Neptuneman/Mammothman team up for the absolute WIN.

Oh yeah!!

GO! Mammothman and Neptuneman!!!

[Black Oracle]

Warsman's story is about his childhood and his chojin father, who was also a Kikai (machine) Chojin but was enhanced by some Doctor Willy looking doctor to the point that he was able to use Bear Claw and kill his opponnent. The father autodestructed himself right after when he realize what he did in front of his wife and child (warsman). Later, Warsman's mother dies (she had some kind of illness). Then the story show him being adult and being recruited into some Chojin training camp (probably a relatively evil/communist one). This is in there than he first meet Baron Barracuda (Robin Mask) who sneaked/spied inside the building and finally help him to getout.

Sadly I can't scan the whole story (the book is relatively thick and I don't want to destroy it) but I'll scan a few pics for those interested like me in Warsman (fanboy inside).

Sounds like Warsman's got a rather sad history losing both his parents like that and has had a tough life being made into an ultimate fighting machine. I'm wondering how a robo-chojin has children tho'? Would be interesting to see a few scans from that story.

And in regards to Comrade's latest manga update, this looks like an exciting and surprising chapter. What the blazes is going on in that final page?! Has Mammothman turned against Warsman and teamed up with Neptuneman now?! Or is Neptuneman somehow manipulating all this? And why is Robin Mask getting all teary-eyed? Coz Warsman initially appears to be winning against Wally? Or coz he could lose against Neptuneman? Plus, what's that in Mammothman's hand in the last panel? It'd be nice to have an explanantion as to what exactly is happening in this chapter.

I'm hoping Warsman can withstand that electical current attack and still be the victor! But if his tag partner's gone traitor, then he hasn't got a tag team anymore!!

Edited by Black Oracle, 21 October 2008 - 06:56 AM.

[Jenny]

I'd love to see some pics from that story Drax, I've been intrigued ever since I first heard about it. However, from what I heard, I thought it was an actual written novel rather then a manga story, or does it just have a few pics?

That book looks really interesting. And I've been never interested in Kinkeshi before, but I totally want that one that comes with the book. xD

Has Mammothman turned against Warsman and teamed up with Neptuneman now?!

Thats exactly whats happened. :'D And I totally called it. I knew something like this was going to happen as soon as Seuichin returned to normal.

And hey, now I see better in that last panel, Mammothman appears to be eating that stuff that Neptuneman fed Seuichin earlier on in saga. So THATS why Mammothman can do the Optical Cross Bomber now. I was confused for a moment then.

Also; the Robin panel, I think he appears to talking about Warsman perfecting PALO, which is why Seuichin couldn't escape. And it looks like Seuichin has been KOed/disqualified thanks to PALO too.

Edited by ComradeTurbinski, 21 October 2008 - 08:09 AM.

[Black Oracle]

Thats exactly whats happened. :'D And I totally called it. I knew something like this was going to happen as soon as Seuichin returned to normal.

And hey, now I see better in that last panel, Mammothman appears to be eating that stuff that Neptuneman fed Seuichin earlier on in saga. So THATS why Mammothman can do the Optical Cross Bomber now. I was confused for a moment then.

Also; the Robin panel, I think he appears to talking about Warsman perfecting PALO, which is why Seuichin couldn't escape. And it looks like Seuichin has been KOed/disqualified thanks to PALO too.

Too bad about Wally if he's been knocked out, but at least he got back his kind soul.

Oh dear, Warsman's in a right tight spot now then. His tag partner's betrayed him and he's on his own, 2 against 1. I hope they explain in the next chapter Mammothman's betrayal. Neptuneman must have convinced him into rejecting Warsman for some reason. Mammothman you treacherous villain! *Points the finger of shame at him.* Too bad Kevin Mask can't come to his mentor's rescue right now... *Has an impossible thought.* If Warsman survives this match and against the odds defeats both his ex-partner and Neptuneman, wouldn't it be nice if Kevin could somehow be made whole for a match and be Warsman's tag partner now that Mammothman's betrayed him?

Edited by Black Oracle, 21 October 2008 - 07:27 AM.

[KnuxieChan]

Thanks Drax about the information on the Warsman backstory. I was curious about that and google doesn't translate all that well.

Spoiler

All I knew was about was there was some doctor involved and Wars' real name being Nicolai.

NOO. DAMMIT, JENNY. STOP PREDICTING THINGS.

I'M STILL ROOTING FOR YOU, WARSMAN. ;__; YOU SMEXY 60 YEAR OLD ROBOT. YOU CAN DO IT!

That would be cool if Kevin recovered and teamed up with Warsie again.

Edited by KnuxieChan, 21 October 2008 - 09:55 AM.

[Dai Makai]

GOD DAMMIT MAMMOTHMAN! WHY CAN'T YOU BE COOL AND A HEROIC SOCIOPATH?!?

Although I AM glad it's turned out Robin's alive enough to see Warsman not only the PALO, but understand the symbolism behind it. Warsman sure has come a long was in this arc, and even if he loses, he's had a fine run in this arc.

And I do recall the Kevin/Warsy tag-team was one of the really big ones that the fans wanted to see. Yude could possibly be planning that. Of course, then that leads to the possibility of a Kevin/Warsy vs. Five Disasters match... which will either force Yude to make Kevin finally LOSE A GODDAMN MATCH, or remove the tension of having the bad guys get to the final round of the tournament.

... Unless Kevin and Warsman are actually Time Choujins from even FURTHER into the future.

And Warsman's also fighting against two opponents he lost to only due to mere inexperience. Mammothman got the jump on him due to the drill tusks, and Neptuneman breaking the PALO. And as he just proved, Warsman's improved the PALO.

[Black Oracle]

Dai you come up with the wildest theories! Warsman and Kevin being time chojins from even further into the future? Well nothing's out of the realms of possibility for Yude i guess.

There's symbolism behind the PALO? What might that be pray tell?

And yes, at the beginning of this tag arc there was a poll for favourite tag team-ups which Warsman and Kevin Mask topped i believe. Makes one wonder whether Yude might just do that...

But back to the latest manga chapter, I really don't know how much chance Warsman's got to take down two opponents. But if he loses to them 'again', Warsman will have lost to Neptuneman for a 2nd time. I really can't guess what'll be the outcome of this match. I hope Yude goes with a different result and make Warsman the victor. C'MON WARSY!

On a minor note, I've noticed Robin seems to have his old mask back rather than Kevin's which he borrowed in his & Terry's match against the Five Disasters. So does Kevin have his mask back on now? Or is he still maskless in that X-chamber?

Edited by Black Oracle, 21 October 2008 - 05:07 PM.

[Dai Makai]

Actually the suspicion that "Warsman" and "Kevin" are actually other Time Choujins from even further into the future is a play on a minor arc in Bob and George, where an alternate-dimension Mega Man and Bass from the future ran into their future versions.

And what I was talking about with the PALO is simply it worked. This officially marks the second time the PALO beat someone, the first time being the fight against the Manriki. Legends-era Robin Mask saw that Warsman would grow up to be a competent and capable fighter that threw off the Worf Effect that gripped him so painfully, especially since the last fight Warsman won chronologically at this point was vs. Ramenman. Possibly a reason why Kevin's so good is simply because Warsman taught him so much.

Yude ALSO has a habit of having tag-team matches where one partner gets beat early on, and then the other is defeated afterwars when the bad guys win.