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#1 walker13.1

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:56 AM

This was created to try to make an easy spot for new members to quickly get information on M.U.S.C.L.E. I have found these main websites and information to be useful, especially when someone new to the community joins. Feel free to give input. This thread was created with the aid of General Veers and Jkaris. Each number's title is hyperlinked for you to click on except for 14.

Beginner: (I highly recommend getting a feel for the first two listed as they provide a lot of information)

1. Nathan's M.U.S.C.L.E. Blog (By Tortle) Good website that has a lot of information about M.U.S.C.L.E. to include what packs they were sold in, accessories for M.U.S.C.L.E., information about the rare figures, kinnikuman (Japan’s version of M.U.S.C.L.E.).

2. General Veers' University Of M.U.S.C.L.E. Is full of good information. Information is pretty easy to find. Everything is clearly labeled. If you want to get an idea for how much a Purple Claw has gone for, you click Auction Watch, scroll through the posts, and/or type Purple Claw in search to see if it comes up. If you want some information about the Nestle Quik tie into M.U.S.C.L.E. click on Advertising and Promotion, scroll through the posts, and/or type Nestle Quik in search. So on and so forth.

3. Site Map At University Of M.U.S.C.L.E. This is a nice visual with hyperlinks of what categories exist in Veers’ site.

4. Ebay Search By Veers Veers’ write up on how to search for M.U.S.C.L.E. within Ebay.

5. Craigslist Search By Veers Veers’ write up on how to search for M.U.S.L.E. within Craigslist.

6. Another good search to use in Ebay: (kinnikuman,kinnikumen,muscle,muscles,m.u.s.c.l.e.,kinniku, M.U.S.C.L.E. men)
a. Copy and paste everything into Ebay all at once, even the ().
b. I average high 600 to low 900 auctions in the action figures category for this search in Ebay.

7. You have been warned if you decide to deal with these people These people are on bad user list for one reason or another. Information of their doings is also provided. If you have an issue with a member of LRG I recommend copying and pasting what facts you have, and send to Jkaris or any other moderator.

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8. Classification Guide This is NOT a price guide. This is simply a guide to show what figures are more difficult to get. Many figures were exclusive to Canada, so that is why they’re more difficult to get (Class A). The purple claw isn’t considered rare because we’ve seen more lately; however, it’s HIGHLY sought after. That is why it’s Class A. This guide was created by Veers with the help of the collecting community. See attached document. It's an update to Veers' work done by ALLSPORTDVD.

Biffard added this to Veers' guide a while back and gives a good explanation of the guide:

"The M.U.S.C.L.E. Collection Checklist is designed to help collectors stay organized as they complete their collection. I want to thank both http://www.nathansmusclepage.com for providing the pictures and http://blog.uofmuscle.com for providing the color classification. The M.U.S.C.L.E. Collection Checklist consists of figures 1-236. The color classification includes M.U.S.C.L.E. figures from the poster, figures 1 – 233, they generally fall into 3 classifications: Class C, Class B, and Class A. Not all M.U.S.C.L.E.s fall into these categories. Some M.U.S.C.L.E.s were not made in certain colors, I did not mark M.U.S.C.L.E.s that are not made in certain colors. I mention this so that no one will look for something that doesn’t exist."

"The color classification is the same as on The M.U.S.C.L.E. Figure Guide from
http://blog.uofmuscle.com and is explained as follows: “The first is Class C. These are the figures that always appear. They appear at garage sales, online auctions, resale shops, and any other place that M.U.S.C.L.E. figures could be found. For example all of the Flesh poster figures are categorized as Class C figures. The second classification is Class B. These should not be thought of as “more rareâ€￾ than Class C figures, but rather as a transitional group of M.U.S.C.L.E. figures. In many cases, these figures could easily slide into a Class C or Class A ranking because an arbitrary number needed to be set to differentiate the groups. The discovery of one large lot of figures could easily push any of these figures into a Class C ranking. The most unique ranking is that of Class A. Class A figures are not rare. Rather they are more challenging for most collectors to uncover because of their propensity for being almost singularly located in Western Canada.â€￾

9. Archeology 400 – The Joe Morrison Interview “Executive Vice President of Marketing at Mattel when M.U.S.C.L.E. was ready to launch.â€￾ General Veers' interview with Joe Morrison tries to shed some light on the mysterious super rares and why they were made.

10. Archeology 400 - The Implications of the Joe Morrison Interview

11. All known super rare, rare, and unique figures with prices they have gone for and who owns them Jkaris keeps good tabs on this, but keep in mind that this is only as good as what information is provided to Jkaris too. If an auction ends on Ebay, it’s pretty obvious who and how much; however, if a figure changes hands without it being brought out to the open the information gets lost.

12. Price thread on the unique (but not rare) figure called Satan Cross Satan Cross is a very popular figure with collectors. It's like the rare figures in ONLY the sense that he isn’t on the poster. It's by no means rare. He is always showing up on Ebay. It's a very easy to find figure; however, the uniqueness of this figure not being on the poster and it being a highly liked figure causes it to go for $25 - $50. The figure has sold for less and more than that. It’s like a rollercoaster. It has its high prices, then will go down. You just have to be lucky enough to hit it on its low end. This figure is the only nonposter figure to be found inside a sealed 4 pack.

13. Information about Kinkeshi Super Rares Look at post #50 in this thread. NamaNiku gives some interesting information about the story behind Japan's Super Rare figures.

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14. How to ban people from buying your item in Ebay:
a. Login to Ebay
b. Go to Customer Support
c. Type block bidder in search
d. Click on Managing bidders and buyers on right
e. Click on blocking bidders and buyers in upper middle
f. Click on Block bidders or buyers from your listings page hyperlink
g. Enter name(s), if more than one separate each with a comma, then space

15. Need To Call Ebay Customer Support? If you need to call Ebay, use this link, and you’ll get a one-time passcode you’ll have to use within 15 minutes. You'll also need to be logged in.

Other M.U.S.C.L.E. info:
M.U.S.C.L.E. Cleaning Methods
M.U.S.C.L.E. Checklists
Track your MUSCLE collection
D.I.Y. (do it yourself) M.U.S.C.L.E. Poster

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Edited by walker13.1, 11 April 2013 - 07:36 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

Great work vette! This is a pretty awesome all in one for anyone just starting out or the seasoned veteran.

Awesome job bro
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

This has all information needed for ANY M.U.S.C.L.E collector, great job Bill :thumbsup:

I believe this should be pinned ;)

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

Excellent job vette!!!!
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

Cheers vette :thumbsup: This is ideal for me as I'm trying to start out and I'm hoping to get my first few M.US.C.L.E fleshies soon :)
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:21 PM

top notch work sir!!!!
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:14 PM

Very excellent. All the awesomeness in a single post :D
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

Excellent post sirrah.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

kudos vette. it takes me fifteen minutes to find that ebay link you posted to get the passcode.....no any longer thanks to you man. props
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:44 AM

Spotted an error on the Classification Guide with Figure #130 Light Blue - the guide says it wasn't produced, but I have recently acquired one.
But its only a draft.


The MuscleFigures.com version has now been updated as has the Checklist



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

Yep, here is a pic:

http://www.littlerub...s.cfm?item=3287

Originally from Soupie's archive.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:20 AM

Forgive my ignorance, but what do the letters inside the circle on the back of a muscle figure mean? I see a lot of Bs on mine, but other letters as well.

I'm sorry if this is explained above. I'm on my cellphone at the moment.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:54 AM

Forgive my ignorance, but what do the letters inside the circle on the back of a muscle figure mean? I see a lot of Bs on mine, but other letters as well.

I'm sorry if this is explained above. I'm on my cellphone at the moment.

 

All genuine M.U.S.C.L.E. figures have a stamp on their backs reading Y/S.N.T. This is the copyright for the Kinnikuman series from which M.U.S.C.L.E. originated:

Y = Yudetamago – Authors of the Kinnikuman Manga volumes.
S = Shueisha – The publishing company of the Kinnikuman Manga.
N = NTV – The Japanese television network the anime was broadcast on.
T = Toei – The animation company that produced the Kinnikuman anime.

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

All genuine M.U.S.C.L.E. figures have a stamp on their backs reading Y/S.N.T. This is the copyright for the Kinnikuman series from which M.U.S.C.L.E. originated:

Y = Yudetamago – Authors of the Kinnikuman Manga volumes.S = Shueisha – The publishing company of the Kinnikuman Manga.N = NTV – The Japanese television network the anime was broadcast on.T = Toei – The animation company that produced the Kinnikuman anime.


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Thanks, but I was asking about the letters inside the circle. What does the B mean?

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:29 PM

Bandai


Ok, that makes sense, but I have several that clearly have a P inside the circle. Are these just poorly stamped Bs, or does the P represent something else?
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:30 PM

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

Popy


Does that mean anything special? Are they still considered USA figures?
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:48 PM

Thanks, but I was asking about the letters inside the circle. What does the B mean?

 

Bandai.

 

These little wrestlers were taken from a Japanese comic book and cartoon, Kinnikuman (Muscle Man), which is about intergalactic wrestling. Originally they were produced by Bandai/Japan in the mid 80s. Mattel distributed them in the USA.

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:04 PM

You guys are killing me! :p

I've been to all of the websites you guys have posted already, but none of them seem to explain why some have Ps and others have Bs. I'm just starting to collect muscle. I have around 80 figures so far. I just want to make sure I'm buying USA figures when I buy lots on eBay, at flea markets, etc. I understand there are color and size differences between USA and Asian figures. I just want to nail down every detail so I know what to look for when buying.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:24 PM

Bandai and Popy both made different lines of Kinnikuman keshi. The MUSCLE ones are all by Bandai whereas some of the other sizes were Popy.

Here is more info for you on the different keshi types:
http://www.littlerub...showtopic=29036

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:32 PM

You guys are killing me! :p

I've been to all of the websites you guys have posted already, but none of them seem to explain why some have Ps and others have Bs. I'm just starting to collect muscle. I have around 80 figures so far. I just want to make sure I'm buying USA figures when I buy lots on eBay, at flea markets, etc. I understand there are color and size differences between USA and Asian figures. I just want to nail down every detail so I know what to look for when buying.

 

To add what Jkaris posted, an easy thing to tell if the figures are Amerian or from Japan is the feel.  American figures are very hard and difficult to bend.  Figures from Japan are very soft and flexible.  American figures also have a very distinct smell to them too.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:19 PM

The ones stamped "MORINAGA," we're made by... Morinaga. :lol:

Bandai purchased Popy, so it is not uncommon for some of the Deka figures with the "P" stamp, to show up in Bandai packaging.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:59 PM

As children my brother and I referred to our M.U.S.C.L.E figures as "humanoids"; I'm not sure why we dubbed them that but it made searching for them in adulthood quite difficult for a time. We called them that so often that we came to believe that was the actual term for these splendid little guys. Anybody else come up with alternate names for mini-figures as children?


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