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#1 Beastformers

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 06:34 AM

As some of you might know a new Checklist for the Battle Beasts line is being built on the Beastformers Blog named the Beastformers Checklist it´ll also become available to consult via Instagram under #BeastformersChecklist

 

The reason for this new and more in depth checklist is the fact that with the ongoing research and investigation concerning this line via the Beastformers Archaeology Project more and more insights about this line are obtained and slight details which have been overlooked or ignored for years are slowly revealed as well meaning it´s about time a more solid checklist for our beloved 80´s toy line arises. It will does not only contain original names of the Beasts in the various officially used languages but also translations and detailed pictures of the backside of each Beast as well to make things even more distinct. Because eventually this Checklist should also bring clarity to the different versions of Beasts that are around so it´ll become much easier for you to determine not only what the name of the Beast is in the various languages, what weapon it goes with but it´ll also give you insight in what version it is and in which countries it was available. Needless to say this requires a bit more research and work than just taking a couple of pictures and composing a checklist of which a dozen are already around. It has to be an addition to the BB Community that´s useful and interesting for as well the beginning collector as the more experienced ones.

 

Series 1, the COMMON Battle Beast, are already completed and can be consulted via the various ways mentioned above. But where Series 1 is probably the most documented and well known Series of the line as a result of their widespread release and the fact that the first 18 Beasts played a key role in the promotion of this line during the 80´s things become less obvious for Series 2 and 3.

 

And this is where this topic comes in because even though nowadays a lot of communication with the BB Community goes via Social Media, only @Beastformers on Instagram and Twitter are the official Social Media accounts of the Beastformers Blog, there are also collectors who are not (very) active there and also those might have valuable knowledge and insights which can be of help. Because in order to validate some of our findings and make this new checklist as solid as possible the help of the BB Community is needed!

 

Why? When it comes to the specific details of Beasts we´re looking into to determine whether for instance a certain figure should be considered a COMMON version it is in some cases important to have this verified by checking a multitude of Beasts in order to rule out any mistakes.

 

This means that you can help and contribute to building the Beastformers Checklist by simply checking some specific details on your Beasts and reply in this Topic with your findings because the more input we get the better and more complete the checklist will become.

 

Every now and then a specific formulated question supported with detailed pictures will be dropping in this Topic to clearly communicate and inform you about what it is that we´re looking for. 

 

So please keep an eye out on this topic and check back every now and then to see if there might be another question awaiting.

And don´t worry if you have a small collection or maybe just only a few Beasts because if just that concerning Beast might be part of the subject it can already be a big help because every Beasts counts!

 

Thank you for your (future) input and...

Enjoy the Beasts!


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#2 Beastformers

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 06:50 AM

The COMMON Series 2 Kickback Kangaroo (#35)?

 

Kickback Kangaroo is the first figure we need your help with for the Beastformers Checklist because during our research we found out something odd looking into the details of this figure. There not 1, not 2 but 3(!!) different versions of this figure around when it comes to the production details found on the backside of this figure. Although it´ll be a hard, if not impossible task, to determine why this has happened and what this means for the future it´s first our priority to determine which one of the three is the most COMMON version and thus the ones that´s found the most often simply because it´s been released in the largest numbers. And therefore this topic, and also contacting the BB Community via Social Media, comes in handy because the answer is literally found in the numbers. So the more Kangaroo´s are checked the better but remember even if you have just one to check your input is valuable as well because it´ll be part of the same pile of data.

 

This is the information that´s spread via Instagram asking the BB Community for help (Instagram Post);

 

How can you help?
If you have a Kickback Kangaroo in your collection please look into the details on the backside and compare them to the options (A/B/C) provided in the post above (Swipe Left) and comment below this post which option(s) you have. 

We believe there are 3 different options BUT that doesn't exclude even more differences so if you happen to have a Kangaroo with different details in regards to the Figure number 35 please reach out directly via DM and provide a picture. 

Please understand that this is really about the details and in this instance we're ONLY focusing on the Figure number so this is not about possible color differences or the Mold Numbers (1/2/3). 

If you have checked your Kangaroo figure(s) please comment as follows; 2A (if you happen to have 2 figure that are exactly the same as Option A), 1B (if you happen to have 1 figure that is exactly the same as Option B), etc. 

When you leave a comment please also be prepared/willing to share pictures of the concerning figures if requested. Because we'll randomly DM some fellow collectors who commented in order to verify and confirm their findings. 

Ideally we'll get an overview with at least 50+ Beasts so the more you have the better but even if you've one Kangaroo your help is much appreciated. 

The Option order chosen is completely random so which Kangaroo figure is the MOST COMMON is still open. Please understand that due to the irregularities found amongst some of the Series 2 figures this doesn't mean that the other Options are (much) more rare than the COMMON version. The COMMON version is just the figure that's the most wide spread and most likely to be found.

 

 

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If you have already left a comment via Instagram please DON´T comment here again because that might result in the fact that some finding are counted double and that could affect the data in a negative way. So if you happen to have one or more Kangaroo Battle Beast figures and haven´t already checked and shared your findings outside of LRG please leave a reply below and if there are any other weird findings you might bump into regarding this figure please attach a picture of it as well.

 

Thank you for your input!


Edited by Beastformers, 22 November 2021 - 06:51 AM.

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 08:37 AM

Hey mate

Just checked the 5 I have and are all 5C with no number

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 09:55 AM

1C here.  Sorry I've only got the one to report. 


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#5 jkaris

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 11:24 AM

Both mine are the C versions, with a very slim 2 in the box. It looks like a 1, but using a magnifier, it is actually a 2.


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Posted 22 November 2021 - 06:05 PM

I have 6 Kangaroos:  1A, 2B, and 3C

 

They all also have that little micro number above the tail: 1, 2, or 3


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Posted 25 November 2021 - 08:23 AM

Thanks for the input so far it´s really helpful and as mentioned EVERY Kangaroo counts so no worries if you have only one to check because it´s just as appreciated!

 

The small numbers you´re referring to is the so called ¨Mold Letter¨ (which in this case, only for some Series 2 figures, is a Number) if you´re curious about that please check; Explanation Details which will clarify and give you some insight the details which can be found on the backside of the figure. For most collectors this might become a bit too specific or in detail but there are some crazy collectors out there, including myself who try to look into every detail ;)

 

Together with the obtained info via Social Media we´re getting to a closure on the Kangaroo issue so most likely it´ll finally be added to the Beastformers Checklist this Sunday and we can continue with it until we bump into another complicated Series 2 figure because there are a few more inconsistent ones around.

 

But keep sharing your Kangaroo finds in the meantime, thanks!


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Posted 28 November 2021 - 01:21 PM

The BB Community has spoken, thanks for your input here and on Instagram!

 

With a total of 52 Kangaroos checked (we´d a minimum of 50 that´s needed) the leading Option had 31 Beasts confirmed so with a total of almost 60% it´s pretty safe to say we´ve determined the COMMON Kangaroo. Curious to find out which Option it was?

 

The Kangaroo has, today, been added to the Beastformers Checklist so you can check it out here;

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Thanks again for the input and keep checking back on this post because sooner or later we´ll definitely need help again with a Series 2 Beasts and maybe others.

 

Enjoy the Beasts!


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#9 Vnomous

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Posted Today, 05:50 PM

Not sure if this helps but I’ve been tracking BBs on eBay for years and always zoom in on pics to look for the variances you’re referring to. This is particularly one that I’ve known of for a long time. From what I’ve experienced, option A is the one I didn’t see often. This is years of looking at listings so I’m sure it’s more than the 50ish sample size you had received so far.
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