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[TheOrgg]

MPG!

.avi get the sound cut out of them over half the time...


Also, does anyone remember the big hoopla about the X-E MUSCLE battling belt/wrestling ring commercial? Why? It had a Kinnikuman figure in the ring loosing, and it had Broken in the background as well.

Mabe this is like an advanced form of that.

[Drtooth]

I really think we are over thinking this. I think there are only 2 possibilities.

1. It is real.
2. It is fake.

If it is real, then perhaps Bandai was just filling the screen with different figures, painted figures, old figures, etc.

If it is fake, then whoever just filled the screen with different figures, painted figures, old figures, etc.

Well, there definately is no third option (sorry if that sounded snippy... the prospect of this Meat painted figure had me pretty worked up, now it's draggin' me down) What this also means is that there is slim to nill chance of a rereleased Doc Nakano fig in the US.

Of course, if they did use the old scuplts (I pray they have Kinnikuman in fishnet stockings figures) that would be excellent!

[Tortle]

I really think we are over thinking this.  I think there are only 2 possibilities.

1. It is real.
2. It is fake.

Actually, looking at the pictures again, I think that these are the only 2 possibilities:

1) It's fake.
2) It's possibly the worst commercial in toy history.

Let's consider these points...

1) None of the new figures shown at Toy Fair are shown. None of the "new" figures in the commercial were shown at Toy Fair.
2) All of the "new" figures in the commercial look EXACTLY THE SAME as existing Kinkeshi. The painted ones were already offered in the Kinkeshi rerelease, and the non-painted ones were the same colors as the original Kinkeshi.
3) Boring settings. It looks like it was made in someone's living room.
4) The top picture in this group shot has way too many distractions, i.e., too many objects that are completely unrelated to the toys. A commercial director's job is to put the emphasis on the product... there's just too much happening here.

Anyway, I don't want to sound like I'm ripping on Chet Zesty, but this commercial looks fake to me. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

-Nathan

[chet zesty]

I put the tape with the commercial in the mail today. Warsman should be getting it within the next couple of days. Then you all should be able to see it.

Its an ok commercial. One of the lines in the narration is "over 100 to collect including rare silver colored". I find it odd that they would advertise that there are more than 60 available, yet there are no pics of any of the figures from the later series seen at the toyfair. The theme of the commercial seems to be that there are a lot of them, and they're everywhere, hence shots of muscles in the fridge, muscles in a fishbowl, muscles all over a table, and muscles all over a kid's sister's dresser.

Anyway, like I said, I sent the tape to Warsman, so you should be able to judge it for yourself soon.

[Tortle]

The theme of the commercial seems to be that there are a lot of them, and they're everywhere, hence shots of muscles in the fridge, muscles in a fishbowl, muscles all over a table, and muscles all over a kid's sister's dresser.

Sorry if it sounded like I was ripping on you, Chet... I wasn't saying you were lying or anything, it just seemed like the commercial you recorded from the TV was fake. Now that you explained the theme, I can kind of imagine the commercial, and it seems a bit more realistic. But I'm still confused as to why they would include old MUSCLEs in the commercial. Including them as "filler" isn't very practical. Why would they so prominently advertise figures that won't be available? Then again, Bandai is so friggin' stupid that they couldn't figure out how to color-match joints (no, I still haven't gotten over that ), so maybe they'd also be stupid enough to take advertising time away from their real toys.

But if these figures are going to be available, where were they at Toy Fair? It's a vicious cycle! Oh well...

-Nathan

[max powerz]

Its just a terrible comercial. I have seen it once and it ranks down there. My brother also saw it too.

[Drtooth]

One of the lines in the narration is "over 100 to collect including rare silver colored". I find it odd that they would advertise that there are more than 60 available, yet there are no pics of any of the figures from the later series seen at the toyfair. The theme of the commercial seems to be that there are a lot of them, and they're everywhere, hence shots of muscles in the fridge, muscles in a fishbowl, muscles all over a table, and muscles all over a kid's sister's dresser.

It looks like the company (if this IS a real commercial) it looks like they want to create that, Millions Of Unusual Small Creatures Lurking Everywhere(I hope I got it right, I keep forgetting) type of feeling of the original line, only they don't make the characters Americanized, weirdly drawn, and force you to make up your own names (why I wish they'd've shown the G1 cartoon stateside). I'll get on a rant about that another day.

But what do they have to gain for going to all the trouble of tracking down 13 year old kinishi figures, and paint them, and make a huge commercial for nothing? Mayhaps mencing Dr. Nefarious or the Evil Sneak of Arkansaw are planning a totally evil scheme (I have serious work to do on Supervillain names, even if they're wacky...)

[ironmask]

maybe they are going to re-use some old sculpts? sorta like they did with the new g.i. joe line... mostly new sculpts, but some 're-do-ed' old guys in with it....
f**k, i dunno. i'd like to see old ones out again... (but the whole japanese line... all 400 odd whatever many there were...)

[Drtooth]

i dunno. i'd like to see old ones out again... (but the whole japanese line... all 400 odd whatever many there were...)

What, you want us ALL to go broke?!?!?!

Just kidding.....

Maybe if we're extremely lucky (or I'm extremely lucky) we'll see DoC Nakano!

[ironmask]

i don't know guys...
look at the secong picture chet posted...
i see a different colored kid muscle doing the kinnikubuster, (behind the red/blue one up front, to the left...)
i don't think one of us could have done that...
well, the one of us that could, stated already that he wouldn't be hot on producing OBTAINABLE figures...

i think it is legit...
but i could be wrong.

[Rokk]

I'm more inclined to believe that the commercial is legit. The poor quality of the commercial is consistent with how Bandai has handled the American toys so far. It will be interesting to see if these commercials start popping up in smaller market areas.

[max powerz]

It is legit, i saw it. What i think they are doing is they dont want to spend money on it because they are afraid that if the comercial is too well done they will lose money. The audience really doesnt care. My little brother said the kids who think the show is stupid want to toys. All that matters is that the comercial did its job and for doing that who cares if the comercial sucks. I doubt some kid put together a cheap arse comercial to sell it. C'mon you see how cheap alot of bandai comercials are even when they put money to it. I think the food products surrounding it were to just give you a size reference. As far as the G1 figures go, they might have the licence to say that they can show them but i doubt they will re-run them. Maybe they will for afew but only time will tell. Honestly it looks as if they put it together last minute and same with some of the tiny guys too. G1 has better molds and i got my first shipment of two just today il post what i got later. If you want i can try to rip the comercial if i wake up to tape it this saturday. My tv card is busted but someone on the floor has one and i am sure he wont mind me asking him to do taht favor. Only problem is the school firewalls things like kazza and aim file transfers so if i get it will someone tell me of a place that will host it for free and once one of you gets it then you can pass it arround. Keep your fingers crossed ill try. Mayve my bro has it on tape but we are 8 hours apart.

[Drtooth]

Well, there is one thing that's been going through my head during this whole mess.

They probably COULD make resculpts of the old ones, or something like that.

I mean, if the little taiwanese compannies can get their hands on molds to make counterfiets, what's to say Bandai can't just buy the old molds and ued them?

Of course, I may be wrong, feel free to rip this idea to shreads.

[jkaris]

Max, if you can get the commercial in avi or mpg format, upload it somewhere, and I will download it and host it on the AKIA servers.

[ironmask]

i miss the old proportions of the m.u.s.c.l.e. figures...
i like the new ones... but i would not be disappointed at all to see some old faces... or possible some sculpts of main characters that were not released in the states.

one thing i'm pulling for, is for the release of the samurai kinnikuman series in the states!
those things were hilarious!
and they had one for damn near every dynasty/district/whatever!!!

[max powerz]

i see a different colored kid muscle doing the kinnikubuster, (behind the red/blue one up front, to the left...)
i don't think one of us could have done that...

just to say to this there is a site that will change the color of the muscle you got and the paint change wont rub off.

as for the comercial my brother has it on tape but no tv card there soo...
ill try to get my hands on it, but i cant guarantee. I might just miss the comercial because i dont watch the other shows and just so happend to see it. If i cant get it i will get it from my brother but that could be AFTER the next line is out or once everyone has seen it already. I cant promise anything.

[THEGODBEAST]

Ok,
I have to add my 2 cents...........
I agree with everyone and I disagree with everyone. I bet the commercial is legit. Bandai really does suck (joints not painted, packaging, colors, etc...) This looks like a typical 80's toy commercial and to be honest it is in character with the original G1 pitch (at least the fridge thang). Anyway, painting up muscles is easy for an artist/customiser, and yes there are dyes that you can permenately change the color of the plastic, however, as far as doing molds and creating G2 customs in different color plastic...........I don't think anyone is that crazy???????????? Ok, well I am, however, I won't do that with an active toy license. I don't want trouble. That is why I really only want to make a handful of the old ones for diehard collectors, especially the rarest ones or coolest ones.

[TheOrgg]

I.E. Complete cross w/ front and back, Spinning Head, and BH Sunshine?

[THEGODBEAST]

MAYBE................................

[max powerz]

Woke up 5 mins before U.M. was on. OH yea Eskara is DMP and kid muscle is possesed by jade. Awesome! Really cool episode with good history. Is the japanese version really any different? Cuz i dont know how they could not like this. I guess its too fast for them cuz alot of their anime happens so slowly but i like the fast pace consistant fighting. Anywho I couldnt get the comercial but as i said My bro has it but i wont be able to get a copy till spring break but its only a week and then when i get back here i could put it online. Odd thing is i remember what channel i saw it. It wasnt fox it was the WB. Weird... just weird. Hey more exposure and getting the Ugi-hoe kids to want to buy the stuff. As i said as long as a comercial does its job its a good comercial even if its soo damn unapealing to people, if it gets you to want to see it and give it a shot or buy alot it its good.

[ironmask]

the 'different colored kid muscle performing the kinnikubuster' wasn't just another paint... it was see through, and looks familiar, if you've seen the pics of the 40-pack due out soon.
that was the deal-maker, in my eyes...

just bring me more!! more m.u.s.c.l.e. toys!!!!

[Adamantiumwulf]

There is also a painted junkman in the fridge.

[Drtooth]

Of course, these could also be prototypes.

It's not unseemly for companies to use the prototypes in commercials and packages.


As far as I know, the 40 pack may not even be the true 40 pack, and could just be a mock up.

Of course, I may be wrong.