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[Ridureyu]

Unfortunately, I have toa gree with both Shizit and Nate, except on one thing.

I'm a "Nice guy," but I'm not out looking to get into anyone's pants. However, exactly what you said is true- I have a lot of really good friends who are female, who are the nicest people in the world, and who consistently go after jerks. the only difference is, they ask *my* opinion on the guys, because I tend to know which guys use webcams to peek into the girl's dorms, which ones are known for having three girlfriends at once, and which ones give the word "homo" a whole new meaning.

This is one of the reasons why I never, ever, ever want to be an a-hole like them. It's just not worth it, ya know? And Meagan's my first "genuine" girlfgriend. I've turned down other girls before, and I still am, for one reason:

The only girls who like me are psychotic.

Meagan, in fact, is the MOST SANE girl who's shown genuine interest in me. None of the others even put up the pretense of acting nice! You forgot to mention taht nice guys DO get girls- why get the psycho bee-eye-itches. I'll never forget Julie, who, after I turned her down, decided to MOVE IN WITH MY FASMILY THREE THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM HER REAL HOME, and spend two to three months trying to convince everyone that I was a worthless scumbag who should be kicked out of the house. My dad was the first one to disagree with her, noting that she never showered, never helped out with anything, and bee-eye-itched about things 24-7.

See what I mean?

Frankly, I don't really mind if I end up single, considering what the alternative is. I have things to offer besides just "Being nice," but none of it is really considered to be practical enough (I'm probably going to end up teaching college history- and NOBODY wants to marry a history professor).

Besides this, I have one more year of college, and then Graduate School to worry about- I can't get married yet!!! This ticked Meagan off, because she evidently wants her MRS degree, and apparently will take it from ANYONE.


Does anyone here have a "happy ending" story? I know that they do exist- A lot of my friends are Nice Guys who got married.

[max powerz]

there is inherently risk in everything.

I think thats a stupid science....

Back to the topic which is off topic anyway.... Basically nate and johnny share my view points. And I would sit down with my daughter too if I have one (i hope for a boy and a girl but two kids no less, maybe 3...).
I completely agree that most guys go from one naive girl to the next and know wayyy to many who do it. I cant stand people like this taking advantage of the innocent. Girls are attracted to self confidence and unfortunatly jerks have more of it by pushing the others down.
A Persnoal story of how to break out of that mold is afew weeks before went out with my girlfriend I was king of the world. I wasnt acting like a jerk(she saw I would help people out like one kid lost his metro card and i helped him even though i didnt like him in particular), I was just sooo happy for no reason whatso ever I would walk completely upright, sit upright in a chair in class (which i have never seen anyone do and the teacher was scared about me because she hated me and to see me with confidence made her angry) and this attracted soo many girls. I dont think im the most attractive guy on this planet or anything. Its just how you present yourself will determine how people will treat you.
What the "nice guys" have to learn is to build up their own self worth, and not just do that amplyfy it. Enjoy the enjoyable things more, and just TRY to be happy.

Alot of college age girls are the same way as teenagers. Still naive and hoping for Mr. Right. Sad but true.

Unfortunatly, they have to live and learn. They better just have the smarts to know when to break it off.

One thing I have noticed about girls which is different from guys is that a girl usually doesnt want to be with a friend whereas THATS WHAT A GUY LOVES! Its sad how that works out. I honestly dont know how I am still with my hot tomatoe, she gets soooo many looks. But i guess looks arent everything. I remember 2 other girls say besides her "you have beautiful eyes". Makes me happy she chose me, I was too much of a pus to ask her out. Shes my best friend ever and I have never ever been so close to someone like this.
Although I find it crazy that this girl said "I love you" to you after a week, its hypocritical of me to say. I said that to mine because I never ever was treated with soo much respect in my life and to the definition of what I knew of it then, I loved her then. Now its meaning has been changing with time and I still mean it evertime I say it with a stronger, more in depth meaning that cannot be discribed in words. So no, not all men are jerks. Not all women are either.
With that said Respect is one of the key factors in a relationship. if she doesnt show it to you or vica versa, maybe its time to say "had fun, goodbye". Either to get your own or her act together.
And general veers as I said before, I knew you were over generalizing. Thats why I didnt go in depth. Its a problem we both got, overgeneralizing that is...

[max powerz]

LOL, i was telling of a story in the making just as your writing that. What a cowinky-dink

[Chibi Riya]

it's not that hard to know if the girl is bee-eye-tch/dumb or not....

well, I'll have to admit that some guys can be a-hole (not any guys on the message board)



(hope Im not scaring anyone here....)

[jkaris]

it's not that hard to know if the girl is bee-eye-tch/dumb or not....

About an hour of conversation is generally enough to figure it out.

[Adamantiumwulf]

Does anyone here have a "happy ending" story? I know that they do exist- A lot of my friends are Nice Guys who got married.

Yeha i do but first. I have to agree with Nate on girls wanting to be with a guy who has some slef conffidence and has some self worth. Which I had little to none of in High School.

Quick synopsis of bad one. Went to a valentines Dance in H.s. Afterwards asked the girl if we could ever be a couple. She says no and she lost her virginity that day. (bampf) Guy didnt talk to her after he got what he wanted. I was just torn up inside about this one. There is a lot more details but thats the short version.

Happy ending.

Meet my wife online and 2.5 years later I am married to her. All that time we didn't have sex tell after we were married. Really short version.


It takes time to find a girl/woman who likes/loves you for you. I had given up hope and stoped looking and knew I was never going to find a girl for me. Then bam up she pops up on icq random chat.

[jkaris]

There is always hope.

And YES, self confidence plays a HUGE role in attracting chicks. HUGE!

Be happy with yourself, and the chicks will flock to you. It's the stability thing.

Women will overlook alot for a guy who oozes self confidence (I don't mean stuck on yourself either). But do make sure you have good hygiene...

Don't expect to pick up a hot chick if you look like Joe Hobo. Ugly is one thing and is commonly overlooked, but skankiness is another. (here are exceptions, such as Pamela Anderson...)

Women will generally look at the inside first, whereas guys are the opposite, looking at the outside first.


Man o Man, how this thread has evolved.....

[max powerz]

And YES, self confidence plays a HUGE role in attracting chicks. HUGE!

Be happy with yourself, and the chicks will flock to you. It's the stability thing.

Women will overlook alot for a guy who oozes self confidence (I don't mean stuck on yourself either). But do make sure you have good hygiene...  

Just saying what i said in fewer words.... Glad we all agree...

wish i could close stuff...

[Chibi Riya]

well you know what some people think some guys are evil...

[Ridureyu]

That's the thing- I have self confidence most of the time (As in, nearly all of the time).

'Course, I'm also about as attractive as "Joe Hobo," AND I'm a geek. That probably adds a bit, too...

[The Shizit]

with the whole confidence thing. its hard for me, im not horrible looking. ive only had one GF my entire life and that was for 2 and a 1/2 years. happiest time of my life. she eventually cheated on me with one of my "friends". now since we broke up over a year ago. i have tried to date other girls, but every one i tried with, united me over.

1 never called me back after giving me her #. 1 just said no when i asked her out because she "didnt like me like that". 1 wouldnt call me back because a guy she hung out with didnt like her talking with other guys. 1 actually called me back, was suppose to go out that night she called, and never called me back and i couldnt get in touch with her. 1 was just psycho and tried to get over her ex bf by hanging out with lots of guys.

now, that right there kills the confidence. im at the point where i dont want to get rejected because im sick and tired of it, so i have no balls and never go up to talk to girls. so its a never ending cycle. no confidence because ive been rejected so many times, but girls like confidence which i dont have, so they wont date me.

where is my ex gf now? she has a modeling contract with a company out of clevland and is moving up here to PSU with the guy she cheated on me with. when the hell is karma gonna kick in and eff her over?!?!

UGH

[smackman]

Does anyone here have a "happy ending" story? I know that they do exist- A lot of my friends are Nice Guys who got married.

Well, I'm not married, but I am the typical nice guy, and I guess I have a happy ending.
I was a total freak in high school. Long spiked bright red hair, spiked bracelets, metallica shirts,black jeans, ripped fishnet shirts,etc. I met this girl about a year after I graduated. She seemed nice at first, and we had a really good first couple of weeks,but later on in the relationship, she began acting totally psycho. I can't even discuss some of the stuff she did. Anyways she became a total beeyitch and started fooling around on me. I was really depressed after we broke up. I got into a lot of bad S#!* after that. My good friend helped me out of my troubles, and got me a job. After working there for about 7 or 8 months, I met a girl on the one day that I didn't dress like a freak. She was super nice when I met her, and to this day she's still super nice. I swear I fell in love with her right when I met her.
She's perfect for me, we've been together more than 2 years now and things couldn't be better. Sure, she occasionally gets pissed at me sometimes. Not without good reason though. I guess spending 150 dollars on muscle/kinnikuman stuff would piss anyone's girlfriend/wife off.

So, yeah, I guess I did have a happy ending. I guess you have to have a bad experience with someone first maybe. Thats just my story. Sorry for the long post.

[Adamantiumwulf]

I had 1 gf in high school which lasted all of 5 or 6 months. 3 of those months were over summer break and beforewe had a drivers liscence. I turned 16 a couple weeks after we were a couple. So we hardly saw each other over the break. I got the maybe after one of us has our liscence we can go out when she dumped me. Stupid me I bought it. I got my lisence a couple weeks after we broke up. I probaly would have gotten it a lot later if we hadn't broke up.

She was the first girl I kissed. My wife is the second girl I kissed.

If 1 girl (exclude sisters) ever tells you that you are cute. Take her word for it. I had one tell me that and never thought anything of it. I was so bent on feeling sorry for myself I didn't see what the underlying words were.

I still don't see anything remotley cute or handsome or whatever about myself but can be happy that other people seem to see somethign there.

Give it time. It took 16 years for me to get the first girl. I thought it was going to be another 16 before I met the next. I know waiting is hard. I got upset with everyone that said it takes time and to wait. It is easy to say when you have someone.

crap I am getting old. To many words of addvice. HELP

[Rokk]

I go away on vacation and look at what an interesting topic has started up. First, as far as the original topic of male bashing and the PC movement, I guess I just ignore it. I have almost no social conscience at all. I generally could care less about society and people in general. So, if people want to view me as "evil" or "the villian" because I'm a white male then fine. I have no problem with that.

As far as this entire nice guys vs. a-holes topic, I have often thought about this. I guess in high school and college I was the stereotypical "bad boy" complete with the motorcycle and all. I found that if you ignored women and acted like you didn't care then they would flock all over you. Plus, chicks seem to dig the bad boy. The only problem is, when it comes to getting married, chicks don't want to marry the bad boy. So, once I got into law school and mellowed out I managed to meet a very nice woman in my future wife.

I was never an a-hole to the girls I dated. So, I don't think that only a-holes get the girls. I think the problem with most "nice guys" is that they lack self-confidence. And self-confidence is one thing that definately attracts women.

[The Shizit]

If 1 girl (exclude sisters) ever tells you that you are cute. Take her word for it. I had one tell me that and never thought anything of it. I was so bent on feeling sorry for myself I didn't see what the underlying words were.

ya, i have girls say that to me, but then a couple of times i would ask them out and they would say no. so im like so i assumed it was out of pity or something to try adn make me feel better. since that happened, i find it hard to believe them when they tell me that.

[Adamantiumwulf]

I also hate that stupid crap, “Nice Guys Finish Last”.

How the saying should go is "Nice guys without a backbone finish last".

Who wants to be with someone who is allways agreeing with you, doesn't have an opinion of there own, and won't stick up for anything.