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[ironmask]

http://www.mmaweekly...leashed-tuesday

 

This could have some very interesting implications, though it might have been better to pose the suit before Scott Coker took over as the head of Bellator.

Thoughts?

[Sixthwizard]

Crybabies.  

[ironmask]

I mean, in some respects, yeah... But when you look past the fighters, to the financials? It's a pretty messy picture.

[Behemoth]

Intriguing. UFC is large enough to be a monopoly/oligopoly. But I wonder what the specific allegations are? Popcorn on standby.

[ironmask]

I think the basic accusation is similar to that of former NFL players that lodged regarding life-long injuries and concussions. There is the argument that "if you don't like it, find a different vocation", but I think there should be more responsibility on the promoters to to protect their fighters (which is ultimately protecting their own investment), but I'm just a grumpy old dude, what could I know?

[Edmasta]

I think the basic accusation is similar to that of former NFL players that lodged regarding life-long injuries and concussions. There is the argument that "if you don't like it, find a different vocation", but I think there should be more responsibility on the promoters to to protect their fighters (which is ultimately protecting their own investment), but I'm just a grumpy old dude, what could I know?

Man I miss Pride FC!
......Sigh

[ironmask]

I do too, even though it was super corrupt, haha

[Sixthwizard]

I think LRG gave me carpal tunnel and a cyst in my wrist.  I am suing.  haha......  Same shit.  Stupid.  I hate the suits that bring about lawsuits.

 

No offense Behemoth (if you are that kind of suit) haha......don't sue me.  haha.......

Edited by Sixthwizard, 16 December 2014 - 12:02 PM.

[ironmask]

http://bleacherrepor...ls-and-reaction

 

Here's an article that actually names a few of the fighters involved (Cung Le, Nate Quarry and John Fitch), and explains what the suit is specifically targeting (like, likeness rights).
I'm interested in seeing how that is resolved.

[Behemoth]

I think LRG gave me carpal tunnel and a cyst in my wrist.  I am suing.  haha......  Same shit.  Stupid.  I hate the suits that bring about lawsuits.

 

No offense Behemoth (if you are that kind of suit) haha......don't sue me.  haha.......

I have my eye on you...

[Sixthwizard]

As far as the fighters saying, "make more money off sponsors than UFC pays"- all sports players that deal with sponsorships make considerably more money off of the sponsors than their contract pay from whatever organization they are signed with. As far as my knowledge goes....

It's probably really unnerving to be part of something where you make 1% of the cuts and the giant makes 99%. I cannot say I wouldn't be upset...but this reminds me of companies where the lower people britch because the boss makes 5 times more than them and seems like they do nothing for it....

I believe the underlying moral to this is- contracts signed equal loss of freedom. Unless they have been swindled out of something, I say, too bad...you signed your names away and all rights therein.

[ironmask]

I don't entirely agree with that. A lot of these guys are getting absolutely screwed on the front of likeness rights. Even then, promoters are notorious for inflating the expectations of fighters' potential for "opportunity" and play fast and loose with the meaning of "we'll get behind you with promotion, you'll have the opportunity to possibly make millions" or whatever. The fight game is oddly politcal, when it comes to NOT speaking up, for fear of not getting decent spots on fight cards as punishment.

[Sixthwizard]

I don't entirely agree with that. A lot of these guys are getting absolutely screwed on the front of likeness rights. Even then, promoters are notorious for inflating the expectations of fighters' potential for "opportunity" and play fast and loose with the meaning of "we'll get behind you with promotion, you'll have the opportunity to possibly make millions" or whatever. The fight game is oddly politcal, when it comes to NOT speaking up, for fear of not getting decent spots on fight cards as punishment.

 

.....You probably know more than most about this sort of thing. 

[ironmask]

I mean, I never got into that high a level, but there was still a large portion of ass-kissing that had to be done to do that, too. It wasn't about how good of a fighter you were, otherwise Rock Castricone would have made The Ultimate Fighter when he tried out... No, they wanted guys who would get drunk and piss on beds. No self-respecting fighter is going to get drunk when they are in the midst of what is ostensibly an ongoing training camp. Why did UFC even put booze in the house?