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#1 ChrisA

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:13 AM

Hi, new to the forum (so please excuse my lack of knowledge! :-) ), pleased to meet you all.

 

My little lad is very in to collecting these at the moment after finding a few I had as a child in the loft. I am helping him collect them the best I can (and must admit quite enjoying the challenge!).

 

My question is, is it possible to source any new rubs from anywhere? I'm guessing the answer is probably no. I have been trying to find one with Rubs on but when it comes to it, most don't work. I'm presuming if they come off once, are then glued back on, they no longer work properly, is this correct?

 

Also, are any of the models particularly rare? My lad is desperate to think he may have a rare one or two so I would like to tell him if he has!

 

Thank you for your time.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 07:29 AM

Hi Chris, 

 

      you have a few options for replacement rub signs.  This site sells them but I believe you have to cut the sheets and the symbol is slightly visible before you place your thumb on it.

 

http://stickerfixer....main_page=index

 

Personally, I have been transplanting rubs for years with about an 80 % success rate.  the other 20 % of the time you ruin the rub by separating the two layers. 

 

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As for the value of the figures, there 4 series, the last, the Laser Beasts range in price from $20 to $300 each without their weapon.   The first 2 series are relatively cheap and series 3 is more expensive.  http://www.toyarchiv...es/Figures.html

 

Typically you are looking at the same price for the figure as the weapon.  So a $10 figure will cost you $20 if you want the matching weapon. 

 

Let me know if you have other questions. 

 

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 08:30 AM

Thank you for your reply, that is most helpful. I am in the UK so i'm guessing these are even rarer over here are they? You see alot of Series 1's, but anything beyond that seems quite few and far between. Does anyone know anywhere in the UK where you can get them? Ebay aside. Thanks again


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:46 AM

Also, aside from the series rarity, there a few figures that are a bit more popular and command a higher price. I found that some like Pirate Lion and the Shark go for about twice what the average series one figure goes for. Its not a rarity thing but I still feel like it is worth noting. 

 

Its kind of like how claws and sunshines can command a higher price in the MUSCLE world. 


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:55 PM

Hi Chris,

 

First of all welcome to LRG which is already a huge step if you´ve decided to explore the world of Battle Beasts, there´s probably no better way to start than out here. There´s a lot of collectors around, although not all as active, all of which have been helping built this great place and thanks to all the input it´s a massive (active) archive of BB related topics. Have your tried the search function yet? This might help you straight away with the Rubsign topic giving you various insights and solutions that´ve been tried and tested out here over the years.

 

As with many collectibles there are, and always will be, various perspectives to certain topics especially in regards to fixing/replacing parts of an original figure which means you´re sort of restoring a 30+ year old figure. I´m probably one of the biggest purists out here meaning I´d like to leave the originals as untouched as possible and in their original state. For me the most important reason is to preserve the history of the line and with people switching rubs around or placing reproductions on original Beasts the history of the line becomes a polluted imho. But the fact that rubs might no longer work after several decades is indeed a problem. First of all it might be wise to be 100% certain if the rubs are indeed no longer functioning because just a simple rub might not alive work or bring them back to life. What you can try is to breath warm air close to the rubsign and in many cases this will do the job, I wouldn´t recommend using a hairdryer or other hot air solution since the chances of destroying the function of the rub by heating it up to much are also there. Once you have completely ruled out the chances of it working it´s up to you and your own perspective to make up the decision.

 

Will you go for the repair way in which way Stickerfixer seems to have been one of the most used solutions over the years. I personally wouldn´t recommend fooling around with replacing original rubs because the chances of damaging two figures, and or a still functioning rub, are way to high and it would be a shame if things get lost because of that. Some people might make it look/sound easy but the rubsign is made up out of various layers and it´s really easy to have one or more of them damaged meaning it doesn´t function the way it should.

 

Or will you accept the loss of the rub and thereby the functioning of the rubsign gimmick on that specific figure and still cherish it as such and go after a similar figure with a working rubsign? These days prices on Beasts seriously vary but that´s also mainly driven by the state/condition they come in, figures without rubs can still be found relatively cheap whereas figures which rub (although some have not always been tested so it´s not always said a figure with rub still HAS a working rub) are worth a lot more. Of course the Battle Beasts line is connected to this gimmick so for many of us the functioning of the rub is crucial.

 

There are multiple solutions and sides/perspectives to choose in regards to the rubsign so it´s up to you which might work best for you or with what solution you feel the most comfortable.

 

When it comes to rarity there are also various perspectives to look at it because in general the Series 1 Beasts are less rare than Series 3 Beasts because they´ve simply been more spread worldwide. The Laser Beasts, often considered to be Series 4, hold the most rare Beasts simply because there release was limited and the last 12 were even only exclusive to Japan making them even harder to find. But like Sydot mentioned there are also some Series 1 Beasts that might seem harder to find or are more pricey simply because they´re more wanted like for instance Pirate Lion which is famous probably because it´s the number one Beasts and it´s without a doubt the most recognizable Beast out there representing the BB line. Does this make him really rare, I don´t think so because he´s been produced in mass numbers but simply due to the demand it has become a more pricey Beast. This goes for almost every Series in which you´ll find some Beasts being more wanted than others. Among the normal 76 BB I wouldn´t really say there are ¨Rare¨ Beasts but you could consider some ¨Variants¨ to be more special than the normal Beasts. In the UK you probably might have the Orange Gorilla version around for instance which is considered a ¨Variant¨ or the normal Red Gorilla and you might also have the Full Shell Tortoise for instance where most of the other Tortoise releases had a stamp on the middle of the Shell on the backside of the figure. Here´s a short page about the most common Variants known but there´s still a bit of debate about them as well; https://beastformers...tlegs/variants/

 

The UK had all 3 Series although Series 2 and 3 have been available in a much more limited, probably regional, way and/or for a much shorter time so in general also in the UK it´ll probably be the most easy to find the first 28 Beasts belonging to Series 1.

 

In regards to purchasing Beasts it really depends a bit on what you want and what you are looking for, Ebay might work but maybe you´ve some local vintage shops or something around that might be worth a visit. But if you´re really looking for figures in a collectable condition it might be worth to check in with collectors out here and/or place a topic in the Need Toys section. I might be able to help you out with some figs as well although I´ll mainly have complete figs in good condition so I´m not sure if that´s what you´re after?

 

Check out the rest of the board I´d say and maybe you´ll find some interesting things on the Beastformers Blog as well and...

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:27 AM

Thank you everyone for your replies, its much appreciated. I will definitely have a look around the boards in more detail. I will keep you all updated as our collection progresses....


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:00 AM

Welcome! I recently found this site as well.  There is incredible information if you look back through all the old threads.

 

I sent an email to stickerfixer.com a few weeks ago and haven't heard back.  I think somebody in a Facebook group mentioned the same thing.  Website shows low stock and up above it says low stock means out of stock.  I'm nervous to buy anything if they don't have stock and won't return emails. 


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 01:32 PM

Back in the 90s when I was with my ex-wife, I once got a cab into 42nd street and treated myself to a 'replacement rub'.  Best $25 I even spent.


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Posted 21 October 2018 - 07:31 AM

Pretty sure it was someone here that mentioned it, but if you have a rub that always shows the symbol you can try sticking it in the freezer for a while to try and 'reset' it. Has worked for all of my heat damaged figures but I'm sure there are some that will be too far gone.

 

I'm also looking for rubs for the figures that simply didn't come with them, since plans to resell them aren't a concern it doesn't matter if they aren't 100% like he original rubs.


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