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[rafael]

hi everyone

im new here, and new to kinikuman/muscle

so, sorry if i post this ina wrong forun!

im from brazil, and recently fond 3 figures, but i can recognize only #1.
the other 2 i cant find in any site (maybe im just blind!)
i know they r not original, but i like them a lot, anyway

if anyone can help me identify those 2, i would apreciate...
please send me an email emailexclusivo@yahoo.com.br so i can send u pics of them, ok? (i mean, if i figure how to attach thi fig...u do not have to email, if u dont wanna)

sorry for the lame english

cya!

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[gilgar]

Hi welcome to the forums and your English is just fine bro.

The green one is #154 can't quite make out the yellow from your picture but possibly #151.


The green & yellow ones look like G1 reissue Kinnikuman from the color and shine they have--here's a link: http://store.kinniku...tems.cfm?id=137


Your yellow one is the one pictured fourth from the left, top row in the picture for the link above. I'm at work so I don't have mine to compare. I can confirm the number when I get home tonight if someone doesn't beat me to it

[rafael]

wow, thanks!!!

u found them!


the yellow is the 4 left to right, and the green is 3 left to right from the botton row

in the greens back u can see the copied and weak mark of y/s....its even weaker on yellow, and it doesnt even exist on pink one!

ehehehe

thanks for the help, im still veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery happy to have them

[rafael]

i just found a "better" picture of them:

here

its from nathan's site

firts, third and fourth left to right

maybe the hole set was around here, in some yard.....

[jkaris]

I wonder if MUSCLEs were released in Brazil. Those don't look like muscle or kinkeshi coloring/plastic at all.

[rafael]

well, one thing i can say for sure: those r not the real deal!


u see, we have lots of mattlel and kenner toys here, but im a kid from the 80's, and dont recall them around here...

the curious thing is that those 3 i have r all from the board game

Edited by rafael, 11 July 2005 - 03:04 PM.

[Nachoz God of Metal]

The curious thing is that those 3 I have are all from the board game.

But not the same color but still weird.

[arforbes]

Interesting, some kind of bootleg board game figures or another release from Brazil?

[fuzzbuster]

None of those three sculpts are unique to the board game. I do not think Rafael is saying that he got them from the board game, but that the sculpts that he has are three that also came with the game.
I have many bootlegs which are similar to these. I think it is merely a coincidence that they are sculpts that were used in the game. The fact that they have different types of trademarks on them allude to the possibility that these three did not even originate from the same bootlegger, let alone from a bootleg version of the game.
As to whether or not the bootlegs were made in Brazil is anyone's guess. Kin figures have been bootlegged on pretty much every other continent, so it would not surprise me. Until we see some packaging with a manufacturer listed on it, there really is not any way to determine the origin.
So, Rafael, my question for you is: Where did you find these figures?
That may shed some light on the subject.

[rafael]

yes, i didnt mean those r from the game, as u point the diferent marks on them.

here every sunday we have this kind of flea market/collective yard sale. many peple sell used stuff, some r good, some r junk.

this guy have lots of useless stuff, and a shoe box full of little plastic toys, like toys in kinder chocolat and many many plastic figures.

so i search, and found this strange miniature, that reminds me of an old changeman tokusatsu mini i had when i was a child.

so, i still search, and found mrs kinnikuman!


they my be american bootleg....u know, i will never know from where exactely they came from, but i realy dont recal them as official product.

can they be brazilian bootleg? i think thats hard, not impossible. but the most part of bootleg stuff here come from paraguai..

anyway, if anyone still wanna see them better, i can send a email

(Sure, they whant sooooooo bad to see them!l like, they just have pictures of that misspeled little truck ...ehehehe jk)

[rafael]

hi friends....almost 2 years since my last post!!!

sorry for anything

so, a couple of months ago, i found 4 others figures, just like the other ones!
instead of pink kinnikuman, a red one, and instead of ...green guy...a blue and a yeallow one.

BUT, i found another one , a guy with screw like head and drill hands...

maybe later, if u guys wantd, i can take a pic of them.


so, i wonder how many more will i find

[arforbes]

Cool, yeah post a pic! Those are interesting figures.

[Soupie]

Yeah, more pics would be cool. If those figures are bootlegs, they're the nicest I've ever seen, color-wise and quality-wise. They look to be right up there with TGB's.

[rafael]

Yeah, more pics would be cool. If those figures are bootlegs, they're the nicest I've ever seen, color-wise and quality-wise. They look to be right up there with TGB's.

my camera just died, but i take one picture of it:



maybe another day i can post better close pictures

[arforbes]

Very cool! I like the unique colors of those.

[Soupie]

Those guys (and the three guys above) are all from Part Eight; Tree One. They also happen to be the Light Purple/Grape board game figures.

So either the Brazilian bootleggers simply liked these figures out of all the MUSCLEs, which all happened to be from the same Part and Tree (unlikely), only owned the board game and choose to only make the Grape figures (unlikely) or somehow managed to get the original Bandai/Mattel mold for this tree... which also seems unlikely. Or, it could be that rafael just happens to only find bootlegs from Part Eight; Tree One, which also seems unlikely.

Pretty cool little mystery.



But seeing bootlegs all from the same Part/Tree is not uncommon; I forget which Part/Tree it is, but all the Future Man bootleg figures come from the same Parts/Trees.

Edited by Soupie, 06 July 2007 - 12:48 PM.

[rafael]

Those guys (and the three guys above) are all from Part Eight; Tree One. They also happen to be the Light Purple/Grape board game figures.

So either the Brazilian bootleggers simply liked these figures out of all the MUSCLEs, which all happened to be from the same Part and Tree (unlikely), only owned the board game and choose to only make the Grape figures (unlikely) or somehow managed to get the original Bandai/Mattel mold for this tree... which also seems unlikely. Or, it could be that rafael just happens to only find bootlegs from Part Eight; Tree One, which also seems unlikely.

Pretty cool little mystery.



But seeing bootlegs all from the same Part/Tree is not uncommon; I forget which Part/Tree it is, but all the Future Man bootleg figures come from the same Parts/Trees.

another option (but not a cool one), is that somehow someone bought pieces from, lets say, USA, and then he come back to brazil...


i prefer the mystery!

[Soupie]

another option (but not a cool one), is that somehow someone bought pieces from, lets say, USA, and then he come back to brazil...

You're certainly correct, rafael, but the thing is, all of the figures you have belong to the same Kinnikuman Tree. (You can read about Kinnikuman Parts/Trees and MUSCLE here: Link.) That's pretty significant, considering there are hundreds of figures and 40+ Kinnikuman Trees! The odds of the figures you have randomly being all from the same Tree is slim, I'd guess.

And as to the Future Man sculpts, I just remembered they also belong to Part Eight (and seven). It's quite possible an original Part Eight Bandai mold got out of the factory.

[meatcutta78]

Como estas meu amigo do BRASIL.Eu sou de PORTUGAl.
VIVA VIVA

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

I believe these are Brazillian released figures. I talked with Satan+ a good while back about some Brazillian figures he had, that I believe may have been the same figure sculpts Rafael posted. I remember searching and reading this thread back when we discussed it. If he pops up he could probably spot some more info for us. He doesn't seem to show up too often though.

[rafael]

Como estas meu amigo do BRASIL.Eu sou de PORTUGAl.
VIVA VIVA

oi meatcutta, tudo bem?


its nice to imagine the probability...

just the figure in green (and the same, in blue and yeallow), have the y/s mark.

the yeallow no-face with arms bend have a little mark, but i cant see clear.

the others dont have even a scratch!

[rafael]

hi guys, long time no see..

today i went to a "dollar store" (i believe thats the name in english), and for my surprise, i found some muscle!
well, from all the packs, that was the only with one of each. all the otthers had doubles, or even triples!

generic company


"mini toy, little monster, w/ 8 units"


all the guys packed:


oh, i have this same bootleg of the "no face man"


man, this sewer color is ugly!


"hi!"


poor guy, lots of extra plastic in it!



so, i must say that the ones i had earlier are better "bootleged"...

[meatcutta78]

I love the Light Blue color.

I am very pleased to see that these guys are still popping up somewhere today.
Thanks for sharing.

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

Ha! Over 20 years later, and these little devils are still bringing joy to childrens faces.