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#76 TheOrgg

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 06:04 AM

As soon as Knuxie finishes the sound effect editing for it.

It's sitting in her e-mail box right now.
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 07:58 AM

Wow that turned out neat! Released it on Mangahelpers.

Ah, thanks.

I mostly finished 23, but I have some questions about your translation before I can finalize it:

1. I can't make heads or tails of what Kinnikuman's trying to say with the "cheap" line. (so I just adlibbed it until I can figure out what it actually means)

2. What's Natsuko talking about at the end about sleeping with someone else's wife?


Anyhow, here's the beta release of Chapter 23, with the original Photoshop files included. Once I get an explanation about the two above lines, (and maybe some feedback) I can finalize it.


http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=XNGXGLNI



EDIT: 25 had no snags like 23 did, so here's that, too.

Kinnikuman chapter 25: It was tempting to localize Okamarous' name into "Trannysaurus", but I decided not to.
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=YONA2X6J

That chapter was a royal pain due to how many narrow text bubbles there were. The quality reflects this.


I should have done this sooner but here's what it was:
1. I think Suguru was commenting that the gyudon he was eating was a cheap gyudon but delicious regardless. My guess is cheaper foods are less tasty than more expensive ones so that's why he was making that comment
2. I think Natsuko's comment was in regards to not knowing what happened while she was a kaijuu. Seeing both Suguru and Terryman huge, she probably thought they grew to fight each other over her and probably is warning one to not "steal another's wife"...essentially, she probably doesn't want the two of them to fight over her when she's essentially Terry.

Those are what I could make out I guess.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 07:59 AM

As soon as Knuxie finishes the sound effect editing for it.

It's sitting in her e-mail box right now.

I guess we both ended up doing 21, then. (and I only space Skull Duggery because it's easier to fit in the box)

In that case, we really need to start working together, since we have over 15 volumes left of this series. So, how do you want to co-ordinate this? You wanna take the 26+27 2-part, and I'll take 28+29?

I also need to finalize 23. Oh, I also need a working mirror of Theorgg's 15 and 18. (all of the links to them are dead)
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:17 AM

Are the on-board links not working, either? (http://www.littlerub...e=post&id=13982) (http://www.littlerub...e=post&id=14020)

Also, what's with the chapter numbering system?

Toriyamaworld had 'Volume/Chapter -(dash)- page number'... but the chapter numbers arn't matching up in this current translation.

EDIT: I notice that TW labelled the volumes differently than it actually named them for Volume 2. Does Volume 3 start renumbering the first chapter as 1? Or did TW just do that?

How should we number these?

And StetCase, I think we duplicated both 'Giant Natsuko' and 'Tendon's Revenge.' Oops.

Also, can I get a .zip file of your work?



ANOTHER edit: The "Cheap Gyudon" comment and the 'you havn't paid!' comment I took to mean that Kinnikuman was saying he got a great deal for what he paid... and that he hadn't paid.

Edited by theorgg, 22 September 2008 - 08:25 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:32 AM

Are the on-board links not working, either? (http://www.littlerub...e=post&id=13982) (http://www.littlerub...e=post&id=14020)

Also, what's with the chapter numbering system?

Toriyamaworld had 'Volume/Chapter -(dash)- page number'... but the chapter numbers arn't matching up in this current translation.

EDIT: I notice that TW labelled the volumes differently than it actually named them for Volume 2. Does Volume 3 start renumbering the first chapter as 1? Or did TW just do that?

How should we number these?

And StetCase, I think we duplicated both 'Giant Natsuko' and 'Tendon's Revenge.' Oops.

Also, can I get a .zip file of your work?

Those links just give an unexpected end of archive error.

Here's the thing: Kinnikuman's chapters have a really odd numbering system. The early chapters have no chapter numbers, and later on the series is numbered by arc. (for example: "Golden Mask arc 1") I'm personally just going to keep using whatever number Ataru does and someone can rename the file if they don't like it.

I'm on my downstairs computer atm, but I'll get you some .zips in a bit.


EDIT: Yeah, I'll just take my best guess as to what that means, since nobody seems completely sure.

Chapter 23: Final

http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=0BU96Y5H



Chapter 21 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=I40QHZV3

Chapter 23 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=I40QHZV3

Chapter 25 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=U1F023A7

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 10:02 AM

Um, should I continue doing 20's SFX and drop 21 or...?

Edit: Uploaded Theorgg and my earlier chapters.

Chapter 15: http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=RMEG8FGC
Chapter 18: http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=FOKDKM5E
Chapter 19: http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=HDHDRVJN

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 10:11 AM

Just a quick heads up: I've started on 28, and I have to say that the scans aren't nearly as nice as they were for volume 2. Lots of gray around the corners that needs to be cleaned up, so it may be a bit harder from here on. Luckily, it's minor enough that it can be fixed without any complicated techniques needed.

EDIT: btw, what should I call Kinnikuman's dad? Toriyama's World switched between "King Kinniku" and "Kinniku Diaoh" a few times. >_>


Knuxie, you seem pretty on the ball. You use Photoshop for your editing right? Maybe I should start sending my .ps files through you so that you can fix things like typos and inconsistency in the Translation.
For example, I use "Morinaga brand _______" because it makes the blatant product placement funnier and Orgg just uses "Morinaga ______", I give Terryman a different font because he always talks in left-to-right in the original text (implying he has an American accent or something) and I've accidentally been using "Skull Duggery" instead of "Skullduggery". There seem to be quite a few inconsistencies between us, and it would be nice to have someone to fix those. (unifying the font wouldn't hurt, either)

Then you could convert them to jpeg, zip them, and drop an update at Baka-Updates. I think it improve the quality of the releases overall. (moreso when we start getting into the wresting stuff, since there's more continuity between chapters)

Although this is assuming Orgg is using photoshop too, and not MS Paint. (since you really can't edit .JPG text after they're saved)

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 11:27 AM

MSPainter, here.

And if it's not too much trouble, finish up my version of 21, too, Knuxie. We can compare/contrast.

From Stet's speed, it looks like I'm kinda out-of-date.

(btw: ZIP FILES, PLS?!)

Morinaga Potato Log! ('cause who knows what a 'long' is? Sounds like a LOG to me!)

And Mayumi or 'King' is what I'd call Kinn's pop.

Edited by theorgg, 22 September 2008 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 11:41 AM

I think I'll just call him King Kinniku.

God he was weird in these chapters...

(btw: ZIP FILES, PLS?!)

You mean these that I posted a while back?


Chapter 21 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=I40QHZV3

Chapter 23 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=I40QHZV3

Chapter 25 Zip:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=U1F023A7



You should really consider converting to Photoshop. It makes the end result much nicer.

Morinaga Potato Log! ('cause who knows what a 'long' is? Sounds like a LOG to me!)

I'm guessing "Long" is an engrishy way of saying they're like fries. Luckily, I don't think they're going to come up again.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 11:54 AM

I use Coral Paintshop (for text) and OpenCanvas (for drawn SFX), so I don't know if I can open just .ps files. I can give it a shot, or you can just save them as .pngs or .bmps.

I wish my Paintshop wouldn't space out letters so much when I'm putting them vertically. (Edit: Durhur. Figured out a way to fix that. XD)

As for Mayumi's name... I prefer Daioh but if we're using english terms (like for Iwao calling Kinkotsu "master" rather than "sensei", Meat saying "Prince" than "Ouji", and dropping the honorifics from names), I'd go with King.

Edited by KnuxieChan, 22 September 2008 - 12:16 PM.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:11 PM

Meh, it's too hard to correct typos and such on PNGs. Just forget it for now, unless it becomes a problem in the future.

Also,

From Stet's speed, it looks like I'm kinda out-of-date.

Don't worry about it, I work fast, but this is really boring. I wouldn't be able to keep up this speed if I were the only one working on it. (plus I really don't like chapter 26 and 27 :crazy: ) Together we can do it faster than either of us could do on our own.
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:14 PM

Your link for 25 is the same as 21.

(and Sarnath'd by the links. D'ho!)


Anyone else keep thinking of the monster's head saying "Oh Really?"
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:26 PM

Meh, I've been feeling way out of this lately but I've got another chapter translated today (and working on the one after but sort of really long and strange thanks to several weird celebrity cameo). But for today: see how the mess of the third preliminary is fixed! And who will be the final Choujin Olympic finalist?

http://mangahelpers....ead.php?t=39609
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:54 PM

Your link for 25 is the same as 21.

(and Sarnath'd by the links. D'ho!)


Anyone else keep thinking of the monster's head saying "Oh Really?"


http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=HTGG4LFH


And thanks again for your hard work, Ataru.



EDIT:

Kinnikuman meets a powerful new foe. Will Kinnikuman ever be strong enough to best this new fiend?

...just kidding. We all already know what happens to Robin Mask.
Spoiler


RAR:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=BZLX88X8

ZIP: (the zip version is missing the credits, so don't spread it around)
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=VA0CFFUT

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 06:50 PM

Your link for 25 is the same as 21.

(and Sarnath'd by the links. D'ho!)


Anyone else keep thinking of the monster's head saying "Oh Really?"


http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=HTGG4LFH


And thanks again for your hard work, Ataru.



EDIT:

Kinnikuman meets a powerful new foe. Will Kinnikuman ever be strong enough to best this new fiend?

...just kidding. We all already know what happens to Robin Mask.
Spoiler


RAR:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=BZLX88X8

ZIP: (the zip version is missing the credits, so don't spread it around)
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=VA0CFFUT


Well we're not supposed to know that yet! At this point Robin Mask is just this horrible evil who will end up ruining Suguru and make him seem like the inept Choujin he is at this point! We're not supposed to know yet about what happens against Atlantis...and against Kinniku Mariposa...and all that other stuff...

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:28 PM

Well we're not supposed to know that yet! At this point Robin Mask is just this horrible evil who will end up ruining Suguru and make him seem like the inept Choujin he is at this point! We're not supposed to know yet about what happens against Atlantis...and against Kinniku Mariposa...and all that other stuff...

Well that's one of the many drawbacks of reading a 30-year-old series.

Chapter 29: I wonder if Japanese fans fully understand how inherently funny Canadianman is...

RAR:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=G68KTTW6

ZIP:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=M15EBB8J


Well, I managed two chapters in one day again, and now I can't feel my eyes anymore. Enjoy.



(I'm counting on you Orgg. If we work together, we can catch up to Ataru's translations)

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 10:07 PM

XD I envy your fast pace.

Here's chapter 20: http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=MMHOMGZA

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:29 AM

Well we're not supposed to know that yet! At this point Robin Mask is just this horrible evil who will end up ruining Suguru and make him seem like the inept Choujin he is at this point! We're not supposed to know yet about what happens against Atlantis...and against Kinniku Mariposa...and all that other stuff...

Well that's one of the many drawbacks of reading a 30-year-old series.

Chapter 29: I wonder if Japanese fans fully understand how inherently funny Canadianman is...

RAR:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=G68KTTW6

ZIP:
http://www.megalopuad.coc/?d=M15EBB8J


Well, I managed two chapters in one day again, and now I can't feel my eyes anymore. Enjoy.



(I'm counting on you Orgg. If we work together, we can catch up to Ataru's translations)


The funny thing that I'm about to do Canadianman/Robin Mask and this whole rant about how Canada is just completely neglected by Japanese audiences and given these inept and pointless characters such as...well, him. It's such a shame though: Canada is an extremely cool country (having been there a few times) and yet the Japanese perspective is pretty much the same as the US: they're just "there" or "Blame Canada" or something.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:43 AM

Having a test on Stereochemestrial forms of butane, ethane, and cyclohelluvalotashyit, I'm not going to be able to work on this for a bit...

Sorry to let ya'll down, but school's gotta come first.

That said, Knuxie, post up my version of the Tendon story, please. I think I nailed a few of the panels a bit better than Stetcase did. :sick:


EDIT: I found it really interesting how different the comics turned out with two people taking the exact same thing and editing as best as they could. I found it VERY interesting.

Edited by theorgg, 23 September 2008 - 06:44 AM.

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And you are here, with them, as so many specks of sand.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:57 AM

blank to all, I am a new customer hence and I am foreign that is I I do not know well l' English…. however I wanted to ask if someone of you can give to me of the link on where I can find the manga of Kinnikuman Nisei All Chojin Give Vol.1, 2,3,4.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:33 AM

That said, Knuxie, post up my version of the Tendon story, please. I think I nailed a few of the panels a bit better than Stetcase did. :rolleyes:


EDIT: I found it really interesting how different the comics turned out with two people taking the exact same thing and editing as best as they could. I found it VERY interesting.

For the record, I'm very proud of the cheesy monster font I used in that chapter when Tendon first gets named. It worked so damn well in that scene, given his pose and the angle of the shot...
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:46 AM

That was cool, I admit... Knuxie?
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 11:29 AM

Working on it right now. Got 6 more pages.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 11:53 AM

Coo. Nice job on Ch. 20, by the way. <3 teh SUUUCKS.
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And you are here, with them, as so many specks of sand.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 12:08 PM

Three more chapters ready to be scanslated at a moment's notice (though one I mostly did yesterday and didn't finish until today)

Chp. 33: Who will take on who in the 20th Choujin Olympics quarterfinals!? And...wait, is that Bruce Lee!?
http://mangahelpers....ead.php?t=39640

Chp. 34: The first two quarterfinals: a brutal Nazi takes on a brutal Chinese man, and the defending champion takes on....um...that guy from Canada.
http://mangahelpers....ead.php?t=39646

Chp. 35: The final two quarterfinals get started: a border war between the Texan and the Mexican, while Kinnikuman (, who tries to avoid this match, but still must ultimately go) against Curry Cook!
http://mangahelpers....ead.php?t=39658
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