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[Mikeum]

Just noticed I had these two, anyone else got either of these greens for prehistorics? one on the left is more neon, right one is more like lime green
 

[Ridureyu]

Tes, those are different, and documented shades of green.

[Mikeum]

oh right, I was going by Aikola's guide, which only has one green listed. 

 

is there another site with all the colours?

[Toytoad]

You are right, prehistorics should have only come in the neon green.

The other shades of green that Ridureyu refers to were for older tribes.

 

I think what you have is meant to be neon green, but produced by two different companies.

Giochi Preziosi made and distributed  Mini Boglins in Italy. I often see them on eBay.

To me their colours are slightly different, and look like they are a little glossier. The one on the left in your photo.

 

I've not really seen any in depth investigation of the differences, but I think that's what you have!

Edited by Toytoad, 11 January 2016 - 01:35 AM.

[Mikeum]

awesome, thanks for the reply dude. I didn't know they were made by different companies, that could explain it. I did see someone opening some of the italian ones on youtube and they definetly looked glossier. I figured it was because they were brand new, but you could be right about that

 

i've actually seen orange prehistorics, and I've even got a picture of a pink one, which makes 8 colours that I can work out

 

one thing I've noticed about prehistorics, I've never seen any of the "ranks" in blue or red. Chief Dredd, Scout Dink, Spy Dork, Messenger Drat. and out of those, I've only seen Messenger Drat in cream. maybe there is a pattern similar to the Samurais 

 

I'm also convinced there's something similar with medievals, but I can't figure it out. Chief Mogg and Messenger Murg are the only 2 I've never seen in pink or neon red, the other 4 seem to not come in either light blue, or light green, except for Madd which I've seen in light green

[Toytoad]

Well, I'm more into the sculpts than the colours (apart from the rare rare colours of course) so I've never really looked too closely at that.

 

I'd be interested to see a comparison of a few definite GP ones next to some Ideal ones, just to see if my theory is correct.

It's weird, I almost view the GP ones as fakes, which obviously they aren't...

[Strontium Dog]

You know, I don't think it's anything to do with who released the figures. I'm not certain until I check, but I believe that only Spies and Scouts were available in that translucent green colour. There's also a purple colour too that may be the same.

Anyway, Dork on the left is a spy, and Dino on the right an ordinary tribe member. I believe that explains the colour discrepancy.

Scouts were also available in GITD and Spies in black, so the precedent for certain colours to be exclusive to certain tribe ranks is there.

[Toytoad]

Interesting. Well, just theories from me!

 

The GP colours do look different to me, but I've never seen one so I'm happy to be wrong!

 

I'd be surprised if the different shades of green were exclusive to tribe ranks, mainly because the difference is fairly subtle. Well, more subtle than GITD or black anyway.

 

Although if the scouts or spies were added to a tribe later on I could understand a different green emerging, one can imagine a factory being OK with not 100% matching the previous shade.

My understanding was that the Prehistorics all came out at once though, so that wouldn't be the case here?

[Mikeum]

I have a list of what sculpts I've seen/own in certain colours etc, and I have only seen the spy and scout from Prehistorics in that green. but then the only prehistoric I've seen in the lighter green is the one I have, I'm sure there are more, but I just haven't seen any yet

 

I think the Chief, Scout, Spy and Messenger from that series all came in purple, unless you mean a different shade of purple?

[Mikeum]

Well, I'm more into the sculpts than the colours (apart from the rare rare colours of course) so I've never really looked too closely at that.

 

I'd be interested to see a comparison of a few definite GP ones next to some Ideal ones, just to see if my theory is correct.

It's weird, I almost view the GP ones as fakes, which obviously they aren't...

I believe there are rare colours that people aren't fully aware of yet. for example, the neon only boglins in the earlier sets, some of them are really common in certain colours, and almost never seen in others. In fact, any of the first 9 sets in neons, the rarities seem all over the place. I'm convinced some don't even exist though

I still hope someone discovers a red samurai like on the packaging

[Aikola]

Unfortunately I have been unable to do any work on the Boglin Guide over the last few years since moving house and haven't been actively collecting, however I still think the Guide is correct regarding the years the colours were released, however when it comes to the Prehistorics I don't have enough figures to work it out, What my guide does show is that I only have Chief Dred, Scout Dink, Spy Dork and Messenger Drat in Lime Green and Purple and that the other members are missing in those colours and the Original Blue, Dark Red, Cream and NOW Apple Green were only found in the last 4 sculpts... I am taking a stab in the dark to say that I think that the Orange, Neon Red, Pink and Light Blue colours of the other tribes will also be found in the last 4 sculpts of the Prehistorics too.

[Mikeum]

Unfortunately I have been unable to do any work on the Boglin Guide over the last few years since moving house and haven't been actively collecting, however I still think the Guide is correct regarding the years the colours were released, however when it comes to the Prehistorics I don't have enough figures to work it out, What my guide does show is that I only have Chief Dred, Scout Dink, Spy Dork and Messenger Drat in Lime Green and Purple and that the other members are missing in those colours and the Original Blue, Dark Red, Cream and NOW Apple Green were only found in the last 4 sculpts... I am taking a stab in the dark to say that I think that the Orange, Neon Red, Pink and Light Blue colours of the other tribes will also be found in the last 4 sculpts of the Prehistorics too.

hey, yeah i've seen pink, light blue, orange, and i've been told there's neon red

thanks for the guide though, i've been using it for years now and it's great

 

one thing i've noticed, all of the retired sculpts from the early sets didn't come in neon colours, and i dont think any of the freaks did (as far as i can tell anyway), im trying to figure out what sculpts actually did come in neons, i reckon certain ones only got 1 or 2 neon colours, it seems impossible to figure out a full set

[Mikeum]

also, ive seen a dark red Scout Dink. it showed up in an auction last week but i think someone made a deal with the seller off of ebay

 

i've also seen messenger drat in orange and cream, which makes things even more all over the place

 

ive seen Chief Dred and Messenger Drat in both shades of green

 

i've only ever seen and heard about Dent in pink, i'm convinced that's the only one in pink, but i dunno for sure

[Aikola]

Yeah the Freaks and Disgustings were both retired before the Neon colours came out, interesting to hear that you have seen Chief Dred in the Apple Green aswell, do you have a picture at all, that would completely go against the pattern that seems to be emerging. I don't understand the colour patterns when it comes to the Prehistorics, maybe they were released in the early colours for certain sculpts, (e.g Chief Scout etc in Purple, Green - Others in Blue, Red) and then all sculpts produced in the later neon colours in a different wave.

I really need to start collecting again.

[Mikeum]

yeah prehistorics seem the hardest to figure out

 

here's a picture with an apple green Chief Dred, and Messenger Drat. there's also an apple green Chief Drox from the disgustings in there, I have him in light blue aswell (the orange ones were circled from before when i was showing someone else)

 

 

 

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[Mikeum]

ah ok i've figured out why only Chief Drox and Drak from disgustings came in neons, because they were part of the Rare Dudes set aswell. 

 

also, i'm pretty sure that no spy ever came in neon colours. even Glup (burger dude) who was re released in Rare Dudes, i've never seen in neon. im guessing he was only available in black for Rare Dudes?

[Toytoad]

Interesting stuff.

 

Also, it's pretty complicated. We might need updates to the chart...

 

I hope you do get back into collecting them Aikola!  Love your website and use it as my main reference point for the whole line.

Would be cool to fill all the blanks in the colour spaces on it!

[Aikola]

Guys I am all up for help on the Mini Boglins site, to be honest I think it might need a bit of a jiggle about but feel free to send any pictures of figures not already there on a solid neutral background. Im going to start it would be great to do a Muscle style rarity system too but that it well out ny reach at the moment.

[Mikeum]

i've got a pretty decent-ish photo setup, but just need to find the time to take photos of all mine

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[Toytoad]

Guys I am all up for help on the Mini Boglins site, to be honest I think it might need a bit of a jiggle about but feel free to send any pictures of figures not already there on a solid neutral background. Im going to start it would be great to do a Muscle style rarity system too but that it well out ny reach at the moment.

 

Sound good. I can help if I have photos of any you don't have. I'll look tonight.

 

We should probably take them at the same angle as you have taken yours for continuity.

 

Any size in particular that would help you out?

 

The rarity system idea is cool too, I think we'll discover that certain colours of certain sculpts are rarer than was realised.