Are these Kinkeshi bootlegs or genuine ones ?, A rookie collector needs your help ! Options

[Chogokin Jawa]

Hi guys,
Back from a one-week trip in Tokyo. I went to Nakano and luckily found the Mandarake shop dedicated to the Kinnikuman stuff, with tons of Kinkeshi (definitely something worth seeing). I couldn't resist and as a newbie in this line, I took a huge bag of 200+ Kinkeshi.
Today I started the identification thanks to the boards but I noticed on some figures that something was unusual, I assume some are bootlegs (fakes) but for some I have some doubts so I need your help !

I have classfied these figures in 4 types :


1. The ones with the Y/S N T copyright but which look not genuine:



2. The ones with the copyright which slighlty appears or partially appears :





3. The ones with no copyright (almost sure these are fakes)





4. The ones with a copyright written in Kanji





Thank you in advance for your help !!!

Stef

[Chogokin Jawa]

Any help more than welcome

[meatcutta78]

Ok so the 1st batch of kinkeshi look real as they do have a stamp,aldo im not sure about the flesh colored 1.
The 2nd batch i believe are real even if you only see the stamp partially.
The 3rd batch well i think you got those right,no stamp=fakes but i do like the guy holding the gun and the guys with block heads.
The 4th pic i have no clue.

I hope this helps you a little,These are just my opinions as i am not a kinkeshi master just yet,

[Chogokin Jawa]

Thank you !!

Actually the flesh colored one does not appear in the Kinnikuman Kinkeshi listing (or maybe i've not seen it...), maybe it comes from another series.
On the second batch actually the 2 "rose" ones (PlanetMan and the other one) have a colour which is neither the flesh one, neither the red one usually seen on the Kinkeshi so I wonder if these are not fakes with a used mold where the copyright was partially erased...
For the 3rd batch, well after analysis of the listing, none of them are listed
Same thing for the 4th batch, and these ones are also for me a real clue...

Ok so the 1st batch of kinkeshi look real as they do have a stamp,aldo im not sure about the flesh colored 1.
The 2nd batch i believe are real even if you only see the stamp partially.
The 3rd batch well i think you got those right,no stamp=fakes but i do like the guy holding the gun and the guys with block heads.
The 4th pic i have no clue.

I hope this helps you a little,These are just my opinions as i am not a kinkeshi master just yet,

[Soupie]

I'd love to help, but I think Jkaris, Doc Moore j, or Gilgar probably would be your best bet. I'm sure once they see this, they'll weigh in.

[biszel]

Isn't the yellow female under 3 a cutie?

[TheNinja]

The 3rd batch well i think you got those right,no stamp=fakes but i do like the guy holding the gun and the guys with block heads.

The guy with the gun looks like Kinkotsuman. I think the "blockheads" are supposed to be an obscure character called "Daisangen", though I don't think any official kinkeshi were made of them.