What are the differences between M.U.S.C.L.E. and Kinkeshi?
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:46 PM
The reason i ask is that i have maybe three flesh-colored figures in my collection that seem noticeably softer and more bendy than their neighbors. I wouldn't call them eraser-like, but they're definitely different. And i'm not aware of any ways in which i would have come across any Kinkeshi. Most of my M.U.S.C.L.E. finds are at flea markets and places like that, i don't buy eBay lots or anything.
So i guess what i'm asking is, does the softer and more bendy consistency mean Kinkeshi, or were there noticeable variations in the plastics used for the US release?
Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:04 AM
Kinkeshi = Contain the YSNT stamp and are a more softer eraser rubber and are a lighter flesh color than muscles and come in basic colors of (Flesh, Red, Blue, Yellow, and Green) They also come in other less common colors and a variety of plastics depending on the year of production.
Bootlegs, Cosmix, Exogini, etc... = Are a completely different shade of flesh from muscles or kinkeshi, made from many different types of plastics hard and soft, many different colors, are often times smaller than the original figures, and are usually stamped China, Tawain ect.... May contain the YSNT stamp, but is usually shallow, or only partly visible. Almost all bootlegs have defects or are inferior in detail.
You probably have bootlegs, since Kinkeshi are usually only available in Japan, or members here who buy them from Japan.
Hope that helps.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 09:51 AM
Posted 09 January 2008 - 10:27 AM
Posted 09 January 2008 - 11:46 AM
Hm, very interesting! We were just discussing this in one of the toy identification threads yesterday -- that is, whether Japanese keshi were actually meant to be used as erasers. The above seems to indicate that they were not.
the kinkeshi weren't even decent eraser material
i found a website awhile back (in japanese) with a guy documenting his attempt to erase different things with several kinkeshi
they all performed horribly!
We were actually discussing the Deiner monsters and something tells me that wouldn't make good erasers either. I'll have to experiment tonite.
And as far as your figures, Scumdogg, is there any way you can post a picture? That would definitely help us identify them, I'm sure.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:09 PM
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 04:40 PM
Eric, on closer inspection of my checklists, these two figures came from you. Is it possible i got some of your reissues then?
i don't think so... i have these seperated. and that sucks i sent you one with missing fingers, i didnt even notice. i try to put those aside too. sorry about that. if you want to trade for it back lemme know. as for re-issues's, maybe, i bought a lot on ebay a few months ago and is was a mix of G1 m.u.s.c.l.e.'s, kinnikuman, and re-issues's... even a little neclace one too.
little guy on left.
post a pic if you got one tho, i wanna see.
Edited by Ericnilla, 10 January 2008 - 04:42 PM.
Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:59 PM
And those ones in the picture seem a bit lighter in color than any of them i have. I don't think a picture would help much on my end, they're identical in color and detail to all my other M.U.S.C.L.E.s. A couple of them just seem slightly softer. Might just be me, i don't know.