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[Soupie]

I recently won a lot of Monster In My Pocket figures that had a Bad Eggz Bunch figure mixed in with them. This is actually very common. Since BEBs are so obscure, many people don't what they are. In fact, one of the only way to find BEB figures is to scour Monster In My Pocket lots. I won the lot for 24.00 pounds, which translates to $47.00. There were 8 other bidders on this lot.

When I received the lot in the mail today, the Bad Eggz figure was not included in the lot. Needless to say, I am greatly disappointed. My strong assumption is that someone else bidding on the auction contacted the seller AFTER they lost the auction or at least after the auction ended and offered the seller a separate sum of money for the figure. I think we can all agree that this is an incredibly, uh, wrong thing to do.

I've contacted the seller asking if there is some confusion. I don't want $50 worth of MIMP. The reason I bid on the auction was for the BEB. Hopefully the seller can either send me the figure (yeah right) or agrees to refund all my money. I have offered to mail the MIMP back as I do not want them.

I'm going to go waaaaay out on a limb and assume someone here at LRG is either the collector who made the deal or knows something about it. If by some -- at the moment unfathomable -- reason you did not realize it was me who won the auction, I would be very willing to work something out with you privately via PMs or email. Not only am I disappointed about not getting the figure, but I'm out $50. That hurts.

As I said, I'm talking with the seller and I'm talking with eBay. If you know anything about this, please contact me now. This is a small community and I think in the long run, working this out now would be best.

And just to be very clear: There is no doubt that I won the auction; This was not a "snipe." If someone had sniped me, I'd have no complaint.

Thanks!

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[Soupie]

For the record, the seller charged 6 pounds for shipping, so the total was $60. Please, if you know anything, contact me. Like the Beatles sing, we can work it out.

[jkaris]

Yeah, that is quite a effed up thing to do.

If it was done prior to the end of the auction and the seller didn't cancel and then change his auction it is 100% on him though.

If it was done after the fact, that is just plain shady.

If it's a LRG member and it was after the fact, I would consider it an offense worth banning for.

[Soupie]

If it's a LRG member and it was after the fact, I would consider it an offense worth banning for.

I don't want to get this topic off topic, so please let's not dig up the past, but we know that our little quests for these figures sometimes gets the better of us. My vice tends to be spending too much, others perhaps use such means as above.

At this point, rather than ban any member possibly involved, I'd be happy Jkaris if you acted as a middleman. At this point, I'm appealing to the collectors conscience, and perhaps if you can guarantee their anonymity, they'd be willing to contact you -- and through you, Jkaris, the other collector and I can work this out. (Yes, I'm going out on a limb here, but at the end of the day, I think interacting in the BEB and collecting community freely is worth more than a lump of plastic on a shelf or in a box.)

Thanks!

[matthewf1tz]

I can only imagine how effed off you were when you opened up that package.

Whoever did it MUST have known the reason you were bidding

I feel for you mate

[Scumdogg]

Man, that sucks, Soups. At first i really didn't register how much the lot actually was, i was going to offer to buy a bunch of the figures and help recoup your costs if nothing else panned out. But man, that's like $2 a figure. I hope this all gets worked out for you.

[asator]

I bid on it but it got to expensive for me. Not so bad knowing I lost to you though. I'd rather lose 100 lots to fellow LRGers than one lot to some other collector I dont know. Anyway, I was only bidding on it to sell it, hoping no one would notice it so I could get it cheap, and I didnt want to bid real high and then not be able to sell it for more than I payed.

Thats pretty shiznity that the dude took it out. I've been afraid of that happening to me with lots that have like, one rare MIMP in a huge pile of crap figures. Luckily it hasnt happened to me yet.

Yeah, $50 for a bunch of series 4 MIMPs has got to hurt. Hopefully the guy does the right thing.


As for myself, as soon as I get rid of the one I have, I'm done with those acursed things.

[Soupie]

Thats pretty shiznity that the dude took it out. I've been afraid of that happening to me with lots that have like, one rare MIMP in a huge pile of crap figures. Luckily it hasnt happened to me yet.

Yeah, to put this into perspective for MUSCLE and BB collectors, this was like finding a lot with a SC or a Greek Beast mixed in, keeping it quiet, winning the auction at a $$$ price, paying promptly, getting the package and opening it to find it filled with a bunch of common figures.

Thanks for the words, guys. Hopefully whoever is involved gets creative and finds some way to right the situation.

[Soupie]

Okay, I think I may have a compromise if the person involved is a member here!

A friend here just shared with me that a collector here may have indeed made the offer before the auction ended... and the seller chose not to update the auction by removing the BEB. In this case, I mainly fault the seller for not updating the auction pic (as Jkaris suggested). Thinking the BEB was still in the auction, i went ahead and continued bidding.

If this is the case, I want to say to whoever got the yellow BEB that I have 3 BEBs for trade. My hope is that I can work out a deal with the seller and get my money back. Maybe whoever has the yellow BEB can find it within their soul to trade it to me for another BEB that I have. I think that is a win/win. I get the BEB I won in the auction, and you get a new BEB from me.

Please, please consider it! Contact Jkaris if you want to stay anon!

Edited by Soupie, 13 May 2008 - 02:30 PM.

[Ghost Lion]

That is terrible. At the very least hopefully you will get your money back.

[asator]

Thats pretty shiznity that the dude took it out. I've been afraid of that happening to me with lots that have like, one rare MIMP in a huge pile of crap figures. Luckily it hasnt happened to me yet.

Yeah, to put this into perspective for MUSCLE and BB collectors, this was like finding a lot with a SC or a Greek Beast mixed in, keeping it quiet, winning the auction at a $$$ price, paying promptly, getting the package and opening it to find it filled with a bunch of common figures.

Thanks for the words, guys. Hopefully whoever is involved gets creative and finds some way to right the situation.

Seriously, I dont know why people even tell the sellers about things like that. Seriously, STFU about it and get yourself a deal!

[lhssenior]

Did you use Paypal? if so you should have no problem getting your money back from the seller with an "item significantly not as described" or however they word it claim if they don't square up with you voluntarily. Definitely a crap situation though, hope it works out mate!
-Barry

[arforbes]

This is ridiculous...

First of all, the seller should immediately refund your money, the item was not as described and the seller knew this. If they don't its in violation of ebay's policies and the seller could lose their ebay privileges. They should have at least told you before you paid, right after the auction ended or even beforehand by adding to the listing description, that some of the figures were no longer available. What did they think you wouldn't notice???

Unfortunately, if you don't know who got the figures, its probably going to be very hard to persuade them to part with them now. I hope it works out for you Soupie, you should get EXACTLY what was pictured on the auction that YOU won, or your money back. Period. Did you use Paypal? "Not as described item dispute"

[gilgar]

Did you use paypal? If the seller doesn't make things right you can file a paypal claim since he didn't send you what was in the auction. But then again, the auciton does say 32 MIMP figures, so he could argue that he sent you the 32 MIMP figures and the auction made no mention of the BEB figure which would make it 33 figures--assuming he didn't change the title or description of the auction and you just assumed the 23rd figure was included. It would be a shizznitty way to do business, kinda like the sellers that would show a picture of electronic equipment and then send you the picture since that's what you were bidding on. good luck

[Soupie]

They should have at least told you before you paid, right after the auction ended or even beforehand by adding to the listing description, that some of the figures were no longer available. What did they think you wouldn't notice???

Yeah, especially because as Asator said, the other figures in the lot are NOT worth $60. So not only did the seller make out by apparently selling the BEB to someone else, but he made out by "selling" it to me as well.

Yes, I know it's a long shot to get the yellow BEB, but if it was indeed a member here who snagged it, I'm betting I've either dealt with them before or that they've used one of my web sites... Hopefully they find it in their heart to work a deal with me. Like I said, I've got three different BEB figures, all different sculpts and colors, to trade for the yellow figgy. If they're anything like me, they'll have a guilty conscience that pesters them into straightening things out with me.

[Soupie]

Did you use paypal? If the seller doesn't make things right you can file a paypal claim since he didn't send you what was in the auction. But then again, the auciton does say 32 MIMP figures, so he could argue that he sent you the 32 MIMP figures and the auction made no mention of the BEB figure which would make it 33 figures--assuming he didn't change the title or description of the auction and you just assumed the 23rd figure was included. It would be a shizznitty way to do business, kinda like the sellers that would show a picture of electronic equipment and then send you the picture since that's what you were bidding on. good luck

My assumption has always been that the picture was part of the description. For instance, yes, he didn't "mention" the BEB, but he sure had a picture of it smack in the middle of all the figures. I think the natural assumption -- unless otherwise noted in the description -- is that this figure was included in the auction. For instance, he describes 32 of the pictured figures as MIMP. How am I to know which 32 of the figures were MIMP and which was not? He should have pointed out which 32 were the MIMP and which one of the 33 figures was not a MIMP.

Strangely, I have been able to find anything on eBay that talks about item description and pictures and if/how they are related.

[gilgar]

Did you use paypal? If the seller doesn't make things right you can file a paypal claim since he didn't send you what was in the auction. But then again, the auciton does say 32 MIMP figures, so he could argue that he sent you the 32 MIMP figures and the auction made no mention of the BEB figure which would make it 33 figures--assuming he didn't change the title or description of the auction and you just assumed the 33rd figure was included. It would be a shizznitty way to do business, kinda like the sellers that would show a picture of electronic equipment and then send you the picture since that's what you were bidding on. good luck

My assumption has always been that the picture was part of the description. For instance, yes, he didn't "mention" the BEB, but he sure had a picture of it smack in the middle of all the figures. I think the natural assumption -- unless otherwise noted in the description -- is that this figure was included in the auction. For instance, he describes 32 of the pictured figures as MIMP. How am I to know which 32 of the figures were MIMP and which was not? He should have pointed out which 32 were the MIMP and which one of the 33 figures was not a MIMP.

Strangely, I have been able to find anything on eBay that talks about item description and pictures and if/how they are related.

I totally agree with you and I always assume everything in the picture is included however there are unscupulous sellers who do this. Some will outright tell you which are not included, some will mention it in the fine print hoping you overlook it and just bid based on the picture and then some will do shizznit just like this guy (assuming that's what he did). I also hate the one's that fail to show any of the flaws in the picture (missing parts, heavy damage, etc) and then deny any culpability because they said it was "used", "junk" or "played with" I only mentioned that because if he is a scammer, he could try to pull that on you, not that I think he's in the right whatsoever.

[Scumdogg]

Sadly i don't think ebay cares how accurate a picture is in relation to the item description. It's a HUGE problem with trying to buy video games on there, so many people just use stock images of a mint complete game, then in tiny print at the bottom of the auction listing you'll see "this auction is for cartridge only".

By that logic your auction title could simply say "M.U.S.C.L.E. figures", and your picture could be a stock photo of a complete set, and as long as you work in some fine print, you could send out three figures to the winner and technically not be in direct violation of ebay's rules.

[NamaNiku]

I am rather opinionated in regards to eBay, so here are my two Yen...

In my experience as a buyer on eBay for almost 10 years now, if there ever appears to be any discrepancies between the item image and item description, I always contact the seller before I place my bid. I know that is not something that you should have to do, but better safe than sorry. There are sellers who really overlook the details in their listings, and there are sellers that are simply poor retailers. If you have something in writing from the seller that a particular aspect of the item image is truly included, you have a lot more recourse in trying to get everything resolved.

Hopefully you can give the seller a call and work everything out over the phone - quite possibly an oversight or a mistake on his part.

eBay can also suggest some other options that may be available to you.

[Ericnilla]

thats sucks man... if i had that figure, i'd just give it to you.

[Jet-Mech]

Man, what a chicken-shizznit thing to do. I hope this gets resolved to your liking in short order. This guy should probably also wind up in the "Bad eBay users" thread because of this. I sincerely hope he isn't a member of this board.

[Universal Ruler Supreme]

I'm always cautious with lots that have rare items in it. I will almost always, after winning the auction, add a tidbit in my Paypal Message to them about the particular figure(s) of interest. For instance when I bought my first lot with a Satan Cross in it, I mentioned to the seller that he made me happy, cause his auction had the last figure I needed to complete my set! I've done this with Star Wars lots with Last 17 figs as well. Cause this will and is likely to happen, so always cover your bases.

I can only imagine how bummed you were though Soups.

[meatcutta78]

This is some effed up shizznit .
I hope it all works out for you in the end,and if someone here did get that figure just go ahead and make it work in Soups favor.
I really don't want to hunt this down for him,

[Soupie]

Ah, another piece of the puzzle falls into place... Does anyone remember this thread: International Check

It turns out that this seller -- even though the said they wanted PayPal in the auction -- is the one who asked me to send a personal check. Hm, I wonder why they wanted me to send a personal check...

However, this seller did not contact me until about 3 days after the auction, so the deal for the BEB probably took place after the auction ended. The seller told me he was "new" to eBay, but he has 69 feedback.

Wow, I feel like a total fool.