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[meatcutta78]

I was inspired by Tortle's article,you can read all about it here:
http://www.nathansmu...spx?menu=muscle

I keep on kicking myself for this one,this little guy came from a 4pack and like and idiot I opened it.

I took some pictures with the injection error figure and its healthy brother.
Front Shot

Back Shot

and Together we can

Edited by meatcutta78, 19 December 2008 - 09:03 AM.

[Jet-Mech]

I wonder how that one slipped by the QA people? Only after re-reading this post did I notice that his right foot is also malformed.

My #5 is missing the tip of his left ring finger, but--though I'm inclined to believe it's a molding flaw--I can't prove what happened. And it's not quite that spectacular, anyway.

[dankingery]

I wonder how that one slipped by the QA people?

when you only get paid $2 a week it's easy not to give a damn i'm sure.

[Jet-Mech]

The 187 that arrived with today's mail has a dent in his head; would that count?

[meatcutta78]

The 187 that arrived with today's mail has a dent in his head; would that count?

snag a picture,I would love to see it.

[Jet-Mech]

The 187 that arrived with today's mail has a dent in his head; would that count?

snag a picture,I would love to see it.

My camera isn't exactly the greatest, but I'll give it a shot. I'll post pics after the stuff from Black Hole Sunshine arrives.

[Jet-Mech]

I was also thinking that we'll probably see an increase in fakes – especially if there seems to be a demand.

I hope you're wrong about the fakes, but I can see it being a possibility.

The story with #12 raises some interesting points. My experience with building plastic model cars, airplanes, etc--but mostly cars--reminds me of some things to point out. In the case of model cars, wear and tear on the mold manifests itself in the form of flash, the excess plastic that builds up on high points. M.U.S.C.L.E. figures with lots of flash were likely from the end of a mold's life-span. (Note that every one of THE GODBEAST's custom Claws that I have purchased has had flash. I'm not sure what causes it. Maybe Marty could enlighten us?)

Model cars also sometimes have sink-marks, annoying little depressions in the molded parts. And some of the kits I've bought were missing parts, had warped pieces, or just plain fit together like shizznit (especially common with old-school kits). There is a shocking lack of quality-control in that industry, especially with the American manufacturers. In my experience, that's rare with M.U.S.C.L.E. Maybe I'm working with too small a sample in both cases?

I believe that Meaty's 223, as well as my 187, might have been released from the molds a little early. The same could be said for figures with any number of maladies. I'm not so sure about the 12, though...

[dankingery]

I believe that Meaty's 223, as well as my 187, might have been released from the molds a little early. The same could be said for figures with any number of maladies. I'm not so sure about the 12, though...

when you say released early, do you mean they popped the mold while the injection was taking place and thus the sculpt didn't fully form? if so, wouldn't you think that the entire tree would be ruined. if the plastic is being injected it's still in a semi-liquid form and if they popped the mold the entire tree might just run out like warm molasses.

[Jet-Mech]

I believe that Meaty's 223, as well as my 187, might have been released from the molds a little early. The same could be said for figures with any number of maladies. I'm not so sure about the 12, though...

when you say released early, do you mean they popped the mold while the injection was taking place and thus the sculpt didn't fully form? if so, wouldn't you think that the entire tree would be ruined. if the plastic is being injected it's still in a semi-liquid form and if they popped the mold the entire tree might just run out like warm molasses.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Or maybe those two areas just didn't get warm enough, or they were contaminated? Who knows?

[meatcutta78]

I was also thinking that we'll probably see an increase in fakes – especially if there seems to be a demand.

I can see something like this happening,maybe not so much with the disfigured figures,but a very high chance of this taking place with something like Marty's Hulk figure.

[Jet-Mech]

Here's my dented 187. Considering that the picture was taken at night, with only the flash and a shaded CFL providing lighting, I think it came out okay.

[imperfecz]

Somewhere I have a sunken chested Kington......

If & when I find it I will shoot for some pics to post.

[THEGODBEAST]

M.U.S.C.L.E. figures with lots of flash were likely from the end of a mold's life-span. (Note that every one of THE GODBEAST's custom Claws that I have purchased has had flash. I'm not sure what causes it. Maybe Marty could enlighten us?)

That is because I let the collectors get the claws for a better deal w/o me cleaning off the flashing. That is caused from my 2 part molds. The flashing is the little bit of plastic that leaks between the 2 halves at the seam. It saves me time not having to take an exacto to each of those claws' seams.

As far as fakes go, w/ any toy line, the buyer of such oddities has got to purchase such rarities from a trusted seller. They should also have clear photos and even purchase such items on the open forum for all to see. That way the buyer can see/hear other collector's opinions and knowledge.

I collected some super odd/rare vintage Star Wars, Smurf, BB/LB, Rocks Bugs & Things, etc... errors/variants. I can tell the difference fairly easily, also because I have seen a TON of customs, fakes, and just plain condition changes (dry rot, sun fading, nicotine, etc...)

I think if a seller posts their variant/error here w/ clear photos, this group is pretty savvy w/ items like these.

TGB

[dankingery]

i don't see what the draw is to these factory error figures. if i bought a ten pack and found out one of the figures was missing parts of their anatomy due to factory error i'd be disappointed. but that's just my taste. i do think the hulk muscle is cool though. and other color errors from the factory would be kind of neat. i guess if i got a 153 with a couple of fingers strategically missing that'd be kind of cool for about five minutes. i'd prolly get bored of flipping my wife off with it though.

[THEGODBEAST]

i guess if i got a 153 with a couple of fingers strategically missing that'd be kind of cool for about five minutes. i'd prolly get bored of flipping my wife off with it though.

Ya mean like this?

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Edited by THEGODBEAST, 27 December 2008 - 07:26 PM.

[Jet-Mech]

M.U.S.C.L.E. figures with lots of flash were likely from the end of a mold's life-span. (Note that every one of THE GODBEAST's custom Claws that I have purchased has had flash. I'm not sure what causes it. Maybe Marty could enlighten us?)

That is because I let the collectors get the claws for a better deal w/o me cleaning off the flashing. That is caused from my 2 part molds. The flashing is the little bit of plastic that leaks between the 2 halves at the seam. It saves me time not having to take an exacto to each of those claws' seams.

Okay, makes sense now. Thanks, Marty!

[dankingery]

Ya mean like this?

exactly.

[Black Hole Sunshine]

This really isn't an injection error, but it looks like my green Planet Man was removed from the mold too early and got all funkified



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[Jet-Mech]

This really isn't an injection error, but it looks like my green Planet Man was removed from the mold too early and got all funkified

I just received a Geronimo who's bent in a similar manner; he looks like he's hauling in a pass! I'll post pics of him soon.

[meatcutta78]

Im going to get you a better pic. Give me a day or two.