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[Ericnilla]

also if you look at the 6th pic his color does seem a bit off compared to the others.

[jkaris]

If it is not a MUSCLE, it could be year 2000 re-release. But based on the coloring in the first pic (natural light), my guess is muscle.

[Soupie]

Yes, I also think it could be a re-release Kinkeshi. You can see that the re-release/29th Anniversary figures are quite glossy:


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Edited by Soupie, 05 June 2009 - 11:05 AM.

[jkaris]

I meant a yr2000 re-release. Glossy plastic like the 1991 series and not much shrinkage.

[StalkingButler]

Is there such a sculpt in the Japanese Kinkeshi line? If not, wouldn't that make it more likely that it was from another line (or bootleg of such) than an actual MUSCLE ?

[Soupie]

Someone would have to know MUSCLE figures well enough to buy the insanely exspensive set, then go to a 3rd party to sell it - hoping that someone would mistake the figure for a SR and get huge bids thrown around. I'm not saying someone wouldn't try that, but it seems like a lot of work for possibly no return. Let's face it, if it's not a MUSCLE then the buyer will file a claim and get their money back.

Some of the 29th Anniversary figures can be purchased in vending machines, two at a time. That is, you don't have to buy all 400+. However, I'm not sure that the pretzel guy is one of the figures available in the smaller sets.


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Also, I wasn't asserting that the figure being a re-issue would necessarily mean the auction was a scam. I was thinking more along the lines of it being a mistake. I mean, at this point, there are several versions of MUSCLE-sculpt kinkeshi out there floating around. I've kinda been waiting for MUSCLE collectors to mistake an Anniversary re-release for a MUSCLE SR.

However, I would have to agree that in this instance, it doesn't seem to be the case.

(Incidentally, look how pink the Buffaloman sculpt is in the 2nd series. That looks like a MUSCLE.)

Edited by Soupie, 05 June 2009 - 01:10 PM.

[Soupie]

Is there such a sculpt in the Japanese Kinkeshi line? If not, wouldn't that make it more likely that it was from another line (or bootleg of such) than an actual MUSCLE ?

Non-MUSCLE Sculpts

[doc_moore_j]

Some of the 29th Anniversary figures can be purchased in vending machines, two at a time. That is, you don't have to buy all 400+. However, I'm not sure that the pretzel guy is one of the figures available in the smaller sets.

To my knowledge he is not part of the new re-released figs in capsules, all the ones I have and have seen are from the tag team matches. Also, those capsule re-releases are easy to tell apart from muscles.

[dankingery]

the gashapon sets are continually releasing new parts. it's quite possible that the pretzle guy is in one of them. i don't think i've seen any of the parts past 5 or 6, so i'm not sure.

[Battlechaser7]

Once again the best commentary in the thread : )

Best,
Chris

[StalkingButler]

Is there such a sculpt in the Japanese Kinkeshi line? If not, wouldn't that make it more likely that it was from another line (or bootleg of such) than an actual MUSCLE ?

Non-MUSCLE Sculpts

ok, sorry. I'm being a newb. Thanks for the link. I guess I'll stay out of discussions until I know WTF is goin' on.

[dankingery]

Is there such a sculpt in the Japanese Kinkeshi line? If not, wouldn't that make it more likely that it was from another line (or bootleg of such) than an actual MUSCLE ?

Non-MUSCLE Sculpts

ok, sorry. I'm being a newb. Thanks for the link. I guess I'll stay out of discussions until I know WTF is goin' on.

no biggie. some people seem to assume that everyone can spend hours going over back archives and studying figure galleries and memorizing every little detail of toy lines. some people need to remember that this is just a hobby and to chill out.

[BaltanII]

Since nobody actually bothered to check...

Edited by Boaconda, 06 June 2009 - 09:14 AM.

[jkaris]

Since nobody actually bothered to check...

The coloring, gloss and size is too close to be one of the 29th anniversary re-issues.

[gilgar]

I don't think it's one of the recent reissues since they are smaller than their MUSCLE & keshi counterparts and the one in the auction appears to be the same size as the MUSCLE. I'm betting it's kinkeshi since there is at least one other keshi figure in that auction, but it could very well be a MUSCLE and it appears someone laid out some bucks to find out for sure

[BaltanII]

I never said it was a 29th reissue, I'm only pointing out that it is one of the sculpts from the 29th gashapon sets. Since nobody here will be receiving the figure anyway, there's going to be nothing but speculation here, whatever it is.

[Soupie]

Since nobody actually bothered to check...

Says who? I just couldn't navigate the official page and didn't think to check eBay.

The coloring, gloss and size is too close to be one of the 29th anniversary re-issues.

Because all those things are too difficult to tell just be looking at the above pictures, and, well, because I'm a nerd:





Now I'm convinced it's not a 29th Anniversary fig.

[BaltanII]

I didn't get it from eBay myself, but from the 29th thread in Kinniku/UM.

[stoneyface]

btw an update:

you know who now has this figure on his website. so it looks like he did get it after all. bummer. he has it listed as Chienowa Man? under the super rares section... sigh... what a bastard.

[jkaris]

btw an update:

you know who now has this figure on his website. so it looks like he did get it after all. bummer. he has it listed as Chienowa Man? under the super rares section... sigh... what a bastard.

Been on there for quite a while now, bro.

[NinthDoctor]

I think I just bought one. I'm new to collecting these but it looks the same only blue.

[Strontium Dog]

You have a Kinkeshi figure

[Sixthwizard]

And sumo bumped this thread, too!  hahaha....