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[dankingery]

so, they're either kidnapped from the factory by shady workers and sold to retailers who put them on ebay (or the kidnappers are the sellers maybe) or they could be factory seconds that didn't pass the qc prior to having the chip set put into the foot of the figure. hmmm... i was almost regretting not buying one of the sets originally because i really liked most of the sculpts. but now i'm glad i held off. not only didn't you get the figs they pictured but you got what are basically incomplete figures. i hope you're happy with your purchase though. after all it is your money and you seem to have a quite extensive collection of complete figs as it is. they could make for interesting conversation pieces like the muscle factory error figs.

[musclemenkids]

So er... what are the gormiti chips for, are they like sorta.... tracking devices??

Or do they allow the Gormiti to speak.. 'Somebody's poisoned the waterhole!'

[SpyMagician]

Hey Guys!

yeah, ultimately I'm okay with the outcome of the auction as I went in knowing the figures were at best factory seconds, and really got them for custom fodder, so at that price and double the quantity to boot made me fairly pleased.

As for the chips, as far as I know they are similar to the old Star Wars Commtech, Playmates Simpsons, Jakks Titan Tron or MOTU 200X. There's a talking base that is activated by figures. Don't have one so I don't know if it's RFID chips that work on proximity or an actual plug in chip...

EDIT: Here's a pic of the Altar of Life, which reads the chips. From the photo I'd guess it's RFID as it doesn't seem to have a visible plug just a smooth surface for the figure, though you can't see under his feet...



Spy

Edited by SpyMagician, 21 February 2009 - 05:13 PM.

[Ridureyu]

I grabbed some, too, and I got exactly what was in the pic:

Now, the real question is, can anybody supply the on-card point costs of the original figures for us? Ha.

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[SpyMagician]

I grabbed some, too, and I got exactly what was in the pic:

Now, the real question is, can anybody supply the on-card point costs of the original figures for us? Ha.

I can supply you with 2 of them!

The Forest Tribe figure in the 1st position, 2nd row of your picture is:

Bu Bamboo l'urlante Solitario (Bu Bamboo, The Solitary Screamer) Power 31, Agility 27

The Earth Tribe figure in the last position, 3rd row of your picture is:

L'Instancabile Demolitore (The Tireless Demolisher) Power 16, Agility 27


I have some more on the way, and will try to fill in the rest for you then!

Spy

Edited by SpyMagician, 06 March 2009 - 11:45 PM.

[SpyMagician]

Sorry! Doubled posted while trying to edit!

I grabbed some, too, and I got exactly what was in the pic:

Now, the real question is, can anybody supply the on-card point costs of the original figures for us? Ha.

I can supply you with 2 of them!

The Forest Tribe figure in the 1st position, 2nd row of your picture is:

Bu Bamboo l'urlante Solitario ( Bu Bamboo, The Solitary Screamer) Power 31, Agility 27

The Earth Tribe figure in the last position, 3rd row of your picture is:

L'Instancabile Demolitore (The Tireless Demolisher) Power 16, Agility 27


I have some more on the way, and will try to fill in the rest for you then!

Spy

Edited by SpyMagician, 06 March 2009 - 11:44 PM.

[majinmoo]

I just recieved my lot as well. Unfortanately the seller gave me a crap ton of energheia(sp?) doubles but they did make up with it with 12 eveloution figures!!!!! that made it worth it all it's own. I'll have a pic up later today with the figs.

[Ridureyu]

Some fusion Info:

Tree guy with a square head is L'Artefatto

Four-armed water guy is Likasu - Lo Stritolatore

Snake guy is Magmaserp

Stone guy is Marmacciaio - Il Guardiano Roccioso

The lava guy with the fangs is Marton.

Also, it appears that there isn't a "chip" in the figures, but they all have that hole in the foot. Look at Magmion here.

http://cgi.ebay.it/M...id=p4634.c0.m14

Or at Uncino Lavico here:

http://cgi.ebay.it/U...id=p4634.c0.m14


Thankfully, Ihave Uncino and Orrore Profondo coming from a seller, and I KNOW that they will be legit. if they have holes in feet, then there we go! The altar looks like it has a button/peg, actually. Look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem



Oh, and I noticed "Agility" appearing on cards back in the Cartoon series. What does it mean?

Edited by Ridureyu, 07 March 2009 - 04:42 PM.

[LethalWhip]

I noticed upon returning from my vacation a few weeks back that a group of Hong Kong sellers are still posting these "factory runoff" figures, but now with their respective cards. Has anyone ordered any of these since the inclusion of the cards? Are the cards clearly bootlegs, or are they legit? Also how does letting these sellers continue to sell these "chip-less" figures affect the future of Gormiti collecting. I'm curious to know if you guys think we should just turn a blind eye to these auctions if they are illegitimate, report them, or leave them be since this could be borderline legit? Is this a black and white issue or is it grey? I think if the cards are bogus, then this is a problem. Kids might waste good money buying bogus figures from Hong Kong taking away from the sales figures of Playmates, Flair, etc. Thereby creating lower sales figures for the parent companies, and possibly damaging decisions on if the line should continue, or where it should head next.

[Strontium Dog]

The figures are legit (or at least were when I got mine) albeit not all of them had the chips installed.

I don't know about the cards in the latest batches, however I wouldn't be surprised if these were legit too, as it seems clear that the figures as we get them at retail are packed at source.

So far as legality is concerned, I would imagine it falls within that grey area. I mean, good luck getting Western copyrights enforced in China To be honest, I think any company making toys in that part of the world basically accepts that stuff like this is going to happen.

[dankingery]

i agree. who are you going to report this to? we know ebay doesn't give a shizznit. and like strontium dog said, getting copyrights enforced in china is about as successful as a protest at tienamen square.

[Battlechaser7]

i agree. who are you going to report this to? we know ebay doesn't give a shizznit. and like strontium dog said, getting copyrights enforced in china is about as successful as a protest at tienamen square.

Dan I do not remember buying them but I received a set of figures that appear absolutely legit to me. If they are bootleg I cannot tell the difference and I received what was listed in my auction which included the newest release "Eclipse" though I had to have bought them quite a while ago as I have not bought anything for myself off of eBay in quite some time. I did not receive any Lords but I did get a full set of all of the regular figures. I would be happy to send you some pictures if you would like em Dan.

Best,
Chris

[dankingery]

not necessary. my interest in gormiti is all but dried up. i was more interested in kronox until i got a look at all the figures. now i think i'll just try and get the two figures i like and the rest can hang for all i care.

[LethalWhip]

I am interested in photos Battlechaser.

[Strontium Dog]

Latest info on these Hong Kong factory escapes is interesting.

In the latest lots (example here) have been appearing colour-changing Volcano figures from the new Eclissi Suprema series.





The really interesting part? These figures have not had a commercial release.

From what my Italian Gormiti source tells me, this was a planned limited edition set for the Italian market that has now apparently been cancelled. So these are basically test samples/prototypes that have never made it to full production.

There are obviously going to be limited quantities of these around (although I do notice they have quite a few auctions on the go right now) so this is a heads up for anyone who is interested in acquiring something a little rare and different.

[Aikola]

Im confused about the information about Eclissi Suprema on Preziosi website but if these guys are test figures it would be great to get some.

Gormiti Eclissi Suprema
Just like during an eclipse, darkness attempts to obscure light... and so, on the Legendary Island, Evil challenges Good in its final fight!
Time-space gashes threaten Gorm and the Earth! Any hope seems lost, but the union between Lucas, Nick, Jessica, and Toby calls Sommo Luminiscente from a parallel dimension, which moulds new heroes and expands the forces of the Lords of Good, thank to stunning magical bracelets capable of imparting extraordinary powers!
From oblivion also emerges the terrible Obscurio, Lord of Darkness, along with the monstrous Armageddon and a horde of new ruthless creatures. Who will be the winner... between Darkness and Light?
A new era on Gorm is awaiting!

Collect all 14 new characters found at your newsstand with their cards and great Fanbuks... and don't miss the four legendary Lords in exclusive poses! With them at your side, destiny has already been written.

Looks like only 2 figures from each tribe including a lord.

[dankingery]

i wonder how many of these "protos" they actually have. didn't someone buy a listing a while ago, and it showed up completely different than pictured? it'd be a huge kick in the balls if someone were to bid majorly high on these only to get stuck with plain old run of the mill gormiti rather than these.

[Strontium Dog]

i wonder how many of these "protos" they actually have. didn't someone buy a listing a while ago, and it showed up completely different than pictured? it'd be a huge kick in the balls if someone were to bid majorly high on these only to get stuck with plain old run of the mill gormiti rather than these.

There is unquestionably an element of risk to it, but how else are you going to get these figures?

I bought two sets of different figures from them some time ago; at first they only sent one set, but after I told them about the error they did send a second set (and by express delivery) albeit with a slightly different assortment. Overall I was satisfied with the trade, and they did go out of their way to rectify their initial mistake by ponying up for the express shipping.

They are friendly enough and their feedback received is okay. Definitely a bit of a fly-by-night operation... but aren't deals like this one of the things that makes collecting toys fun?

[dankingery]

i wish all who endeavor to acquire these figures the best of luck. i just like to make sure my brothers and sisters are well protected if i can.

in a way, i can see taking the risk. a few of the sculpts are pretty cool looking. plus, having something like this is like buying the super-rares direct from the factory before they had a chance to end up in packaging and causing years and years of research by nerds seeking truth and answers to the mysteries.

[LethalWhip]

I think I asked this once before, but did anybody get one of these lots with the cards? Do the cards seem legit compared to Italian cards? I am curious to know if the cards are simply bootlegged.

[Strontium Dog]

I have a set coming so I will let you know as soon as I'm able. As I said a while ago, I would tend towards the idea that they're legit. It seems pretty clear that the figures are packed at source, so the real cards should be in close proximity.

[jkaris]

I won 2 sets. We'll see what comes in.

[Strontium Dog]

Noo, they're coming from Hong Kong, an autonomous region of China. The auctions are in English and they speak English there because it was a British colony until very recently... maybe that is the source of the confusion